Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently across all architectures

From: Paul E. McKenney
Date: Wed Aug 15 2007 - 22:31:22 EST


On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 03:30:44AM +0200, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> >>>Part of the motivation here is to fix heisenbugs. If I knew where
> >>>they
> >>
> >>By the same token we should probably disable optimisations
> >>altogether since that too can create heisenbugs.
> >
> >Precisely the point -- use of volatile (whether in casts or on asms)
> >in these cases are intended to disable those optimizations likely to
> >result in heisenbugs.
>
> The only thing volatile on an asm does is create a side effect
> on the asm statement; in effect, it tells the compiler "do not
> remove this asm even if you don't need any of its outputs".
>
> It's not disabling optimisation likely to result in bugs,
> heisen- or otherwise; _not_ putting the volatile on an asm
> that needs it simply _is_ a bug :-)

Yep. And the reason it is a bug is that it fails to disable
the relevant compiler optimizations. So I suspect that we might
actually be saying the same thing here.

Thanx, Paul
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