Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

From: david
Date: Thu Jun 14 2007 - 19:47:44 EST

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Alexandre Oliva wrote:

On Jun 14, 2007, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Tivo *respected* the freedoms, and gave source back, and gave you all the
same rights you had to Linux originally, and to their modifications.

How stupid are you to not acknowledge that?

Tivo limited their *hardware*, not the software.

Have you ever wondered *why* it limited the hardware?

Is it per chance such that I cannot modify the software that runs on
the hardware?

if you cannot modify the software that runs on your Tivo hardware you haven't tried very hard.

true, they don't go out of their way to make it easy, but even if they didn't do the integrity checking of the system it still wouldn't be easy to load your own software on the tivo, there's no path to load the software without disassembling the hardware.

How is that respecting the freedoms? How is this not imposing further

I think the software is all available at that provides you all the freedom that they got.

David Lang

And, more importantly, how is it that permitting this makes for
*better* compliance with your tit-for-tat conceptions about the GPL?

I.e., if Tivoization is the only issue that you think makes GPLv3 a
worse license than GPLv2, and you like GPLv2 because of this
tit-for-tat, surely you should be able to explain why Tivoization
promotes this tit-for-tat notion better than GPLv3, right?

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