Re: [linux-dvb-maintainer] Re: [OOPS] Linux 2.6.14.2 and DVB USB

[Johannes Stezenbach]

Patrick Boettcher wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Nov 2005, Johannes Stezenbach wrote:
> > Patrick Boettcher wrote:
> >>Unfortunately the dvb-core is currently not able to handle hotplugging
> >>while a dvb application is accessing a dvb-dev-node. This applies
> >>for every dvb-device, not only for dvb-usb devices, but no one ever tried
> >>to unplug a DVB PCI card while using it, yet.
> >>
> >>Before unplugging a device, you can check if the module is removable to
> >>make sure that really no application is currently using it. (You will get
> >>"module in use" then).
> >>
> >>We already thought about that problem and we think that dvbdev.c is the
> >>correct place to start implementing that, but I don't have enough
> >>knowledge (and time) to do that now, sorry.
> >
> >I thought someone sent a patch which fixes it for the cinergyT2
> >recently? Wouldn't the same approach work for dvb-usb?
> >(But I haven't had a chance to test the cinergyT2 patch yet.)
> 
> Once Deti Fliegl created that patch I had a look at it to figure out if it 
> can easily be adapted to dvb-usb. This is was my answer:
> 
> http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/2005-October/005333.html
> 
> After that mail I had some private mails with Deti, but he is currently 
> too busy to adapt his mechanism to dvbdev.c and I'm too stupid.

The advantage of keeping development stuff on the lists is that
someone else might actually write a patch to address the issue...

> The cinergy-driver handles the frontend in a different way and that's 
> why it is possible to fix it like Deti does it.
> 
> If I could fix it in in dvb-usb, then it would be again only fixed for a 
> small amount of devices. For DVB-PCMCIA-cards using the default 
> fe-architecture will also cause Oopses like that, when unplugging while 
> having the device in use. That's why, IMHO, the dvb-core should be made 
> hotplug-safe, not a single driver. Even worse: it's not just the 
> frontend-device-nodes, but also the demux-nodes (and I think the other 
> onces too).

I agree. Could you post a summary of your conversation with Deti to
linux-dvb so someone else could start working on it?

Thanks,
Johannes
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