Re: 2.6.9 rc2 freezing

[Zilvinas Valinskas]

On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 10:39:10AM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote:
> Jeff Garzik wrote:
> 
> >Lee Revell wrote:
> >
> >>Interesting.  Still, this looks like a specific bug that needs fixing,
> >>it doesn't imply that preemption is a hack.  For many workloads
> >>preemption is a necessity.
> >
> >
> >
> >For any workload that you feel preemption is a necessity, that 
> >indicates a latency problem in the kernel that should be solved.
> >
> >Preemption is a hack that hides broken drivers, IMHO.
> >
> >I would rather directly address any latency problems that appear.
> 
> Current preempt is broken, sure.  But having robust preempt
> would allow code simplification.  Long loops outside critical
> sections would be ok - no time or code spent testing for a need for
> rescheduling because you'll be preempted when necessary anyway.

Could be the case. This morning I've turned off PREEMPT support in
linux 2.6.9-rc2 kernel, booted just fine, ran apt-get update ... it
seemed everything is ok. 

Then setup IPsec policies, ping remote end, racoon has tried to negotiate 
with a remote end and ... laptop freezes again (this time without
PREEMPT).

At a time I was in X, couldn't capture the OOPS, after reboot
/var/log/kern.log is empty ... :(

Doesn't seem it is PREEMPT related I think now.
> 
> Or am I missing something?  Other than that current preempt isn't up to
> this and might be hard to get there?
> 
> Helge Hafting
> 
> 
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