Re: The argument for fs assistance in handling archives (was: silent semantic changes with reiser4)

[Spam]

> Salut,

> On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 09:50:31PM +0200, Spam wrote:
>> Their  libraries are  huge and  memory hogging  which so  many Linux
>> users just do not like.

> This  is rather  a  fud argument:  both  the gnome  VFS  code and the
> KIOserver/KIOslave  code aren't really  large. You  don't want  to use
> them for a busybox/tinylogin system, however.

  Then it is good. Just I see no programs other than Gnome or KDE apps
  that are using them.

>> What if  a user doesn't want  KDE or Gnome? Would  all files created
>> with either be broken?

> The files  still work well, just  that you can't access  them over the
> old fancy URL schemes.

  No only, but if you cp then with a non KDE/Gnome app then you will
  loose the meta-data and extra info too. That was my point.

>> I  doubt  that  something   like  file  streams  and  meta-data can
>> successfully be  implemented purely in  user-space and get  the same
>> support (ie  be used by many  programs) if this  change doesn't come
>> from the kernel. I just do not see it happen.

> Actually,  practical  discordianism.  If  you develop  a  common  API,
> there'll always be people disagreeing.

> GTK+ with all  its features is just cool. Desktop  warping is a really
> nice  thing. But  there are  people out  there who  don't want  to use
> it. They use QT, or even plain old Athena Widgets. So what? Will we be
> implementing the X toolkits into the kernel?

  This is certainly not what I said or wanted.

> In case of marketing it's up to the distributions to provide something
> concise  so  everyone  can  use  their  programs  through  a  coherent
> namespace. (I.e. port all the apps they ship to gnome-vfs or kio).

  Do you really believe this will happen? Good if it did. I do not
  believe it. And I certainly do not see the thousands of man hours
  needed to actually provide all the patches as a benefit.

  ~S

> 			    Tonnerre

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