Re: vger rejecting messages from mediaone (ORBS is evil)

From: Jeff Millar (jeff@wa1hco.mv.com)
Date: Sun Jan 16 2000 - 19:45:29 EST


A very convincing line of argument, _if_ you assume that a mail
probe of a net service constitutes a search. It's closer
to looking a public behavior than an invasive search.

----- Original Message -----
From: "George Bonser" <grep@shorelink.com>
To: "Khimenko Victor" <khim@sch57.msk.ru>
Cc: <walt@hubinternet.com>; <davids@webmaster.com>;
<dank@alumni.caltech.edu>; <linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu>
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: vger rejecting messages from mediaone (ORBS is evil)

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> That some self-appointed group can interrupt ones communications by
> presuming guilt until one subjects to a search goes against some core
> principles that many of us hold dear. Who are these people, and who
> elected them? The fix is to simply refuse to submit to their searches and
> probes making their database less one of open relays and more one of those
> who will not obey their demand. Those how choose to use them will find
> their own communications hampered.
>
> To find one guilty and impose punishment in the absence of any evidence of
> wrongoing simply because one refuses to submit to search is wrong. It must
> be stopped. The goal is a good one, the method is evil. I would strongly
> suggest that all net admins block these probes.

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