Re: devfs again, (was RE: USB device allocation)

Riley Williams (rhw@MemAlpha.CX)
Fri, 8 Oct 1999 12:29:37 +0100 (GMT)


Hi Horst.

Before anybody complains, I will shortly be helping a friend to write
a device driver for Linux, and I thus need to get this sorted out.
There is a strict time limit for the driver project since it is being
done as a final year project for a university degree.

>>>> 90% of the objections to having devfs in the kernel
>>>> are easily solved with "well don't use it then".

>>> Wrong. Having devfs in the kernel has an impact on _all_ devices,
>>> if they use it or not. Giving the option has even more impact
>>> here than just forcing it one way or the other.

>> I'm sorry, but I fail to understand your reasoning behind this
>> statement. Could you please clarify? How is a driver which
>> presents a traditional major/minor number interface affected by
>> the presence of a devfs (which, presumably, uses a different
>> interface to the driver).

> That is the point: There are _two_ interfaces to the driver.

Are you sure of that?

My understanding was that the devfs interface just called the entry
points that get called as a result of accessing the standard node
file. If so, the drivers just have to export the same set of entry
points they would export in the absence of devfs.

> As a driver author I must make sure _both_ work, so I must study
> both; I'll have to compile four kernels (devfs/module) just to
> check that it doesn't break.

Only if devfs uses different entry points to the standard node file.

> I must check that I don't hijack a major number, and that I
> don't take over the device name for something else (this has to
> be done in the driver, if I understand a recent post correctly).

I saw the post you're referring to, and I found said post very
confusing, so I don't intend to comment thereon.

> I must set up a default permission in the driver, and also add
> it to MAKEDEV.

Certainly needed if devfs is NOT in use, and a good idea even if it is.

Best wishes from Riley.

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