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> On Fri, Dec 04, 1998 at 11:52:17AM +0900, Drago Goricanec wrote:
> > On 03 Dec 1998 16:25:16 +0100, Jes Sorensen writes:
> > > Oh and how to you expect kernel hackers to be able to help debug a
> > > problem when someone posts dmesg output in Chinese to linux-kernel?
> >
> > So is that why the old IBM mainframes tagged every system message with
> > a unique identifier?
>
> And it's a very good idea. If you want to create tools which parse your
> logs, you probably don't want to scan for multiple languages ...
>
> > > We've had this discussion before, about a year ago I think, forget it
> > > once and for all, please.
> >
> > I think having messages appear in the sysadmin's native language has
> > merit. The front line for Linux support is moving away from this
> > list.
> >
> > Once messages permeate back to this list, they can be converted back
> > to English just as the original message was converted originally to
> > the native language.
>
> Which is much harder for the sysadmin than understanding the meaning of an
> english message.
>
> I'd suggest the following: Add numbers to the printk messages and leave the
> english as it is.
> printk ("<4> [00002] Calibrating delay loop ... [] 12.32 BogoMIPS");
> (We don't want userspace tools to translate these numbers into english.
> Think of installation or boot problems.) You can create a userspace tool to
> pick up these numbers, to remove the english text and put the native
> language text instead. [00002] would be translated into "Kalibriere
> Verzoegerungsschleife ..." (german, in my native language) and [] would not
> be translated.
> klogd would normally (option) just strip these [00002] and [] messages, but
> with a plugin module for translation it will remove the english text and put
> the text delivered by the translator instead. There are grammar problems for
> some languages with such an approach, however.
>
> I'm very satisfied with kernel messages in english. And I'm rather annoyed
> to have the glibc display perrors in german: When programming my own little
> tools, I create error messages this way:
> if (errno)
> fprintf (stderr, "tool: Can't open file \"foo\": %s\n", strerror(errnor));
> which results in bilingual messages.
>
> Regards,
> --
> Kurt Garloff <K.Garloff@ping.de> (Dortmund, FRG)
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>
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