Re: Major 2.1.x problem index

Mark Lord (mlord@pobox.com)
Sat, 27 Jun 1998 12:05:15 -0400


I seem to recall hearing that this was a K6/VP2 bug,
rather than an IDe-specific problem.

Right?

Jamie Lokier wrote:
>
> Alan, you wrote:
> > http://roadrunner.swansea.uk.linux.org/jobs.shtml holds the major
> > showstopper items for a 2.2 release, and a few other bugs indexed on a
> > web page.
> >
> > I've gone back to problems filed and reproduced from 2.1.97 onwards
> > so far. My archive goes back a lot further, its just less and less
> > productive the further I dig (and more and more boring ;)).
>
> I have one problem I consider major, though I have a
> performance-reducing workaround:
>
> - Without `ide0=nodma', my system will suddenly just freeze
> (SysRq not working). It usually freezes a few times a day, though
> sometimes several days of uptime have gone by without a freeze.
>
> With it, the system is very reliable and I have had uptimes in
> excess of a month to test this. There have been a couple of
> freezes in this case, but only while starting the X server
> (3.3.1, which I believe has a known bug for this, while
> initialising my video card).
>
> As I have work to do, I always use `ide0=nodma' except when trying
> a new kernel to see if the problem has gone away.
>
> This has been present with all 2.1.x I've tried, including at
> least 2.1.70, 2.1.72, 2.1.80, 2.1.82, 2.1.85, 2.1.96, 2.1.105.
> Haven't tried 2.1.106 because of mentions of fs corruption on
> linux-kernel.
>
> System is AMD K6/233, VIA VP2/97 chipset, Quantum FB ST 6.4GB disk.
>
> This bug has been demonstrated with simple disk activity tests in
> single user mode, no other I/O except writing to the screen, though I
> haven't found any specific way to reproduce it.
>
> Others have reported total freezes. Perhaps they should also try
> `ide0=nodma' (or the appropriate variation), to see if their freezes
> also stop.
>
> Here's something I'm not even sure is a problem, it just surprised me:
>
> - A couple of times (either with 2.1.85 or 2.1.96, I forget), I have
> needed to reset the box after X crashed while initialising. On the
> next boot, fsck (on /usr) was skipped as if the filesystem was
> unmounted cleanly.
>
> It is possible /usr was not written to by this time though it was
> definitely mounted read-write. Is this behaviour correct,
> i.e. not marking the disk as dirty even though it has been mounted
> rw? (Perhaps the dirty flag is deferred until the first write).
> There is a lot of disk activity in my boot process which continues
> beyond starting X. I was a bit worried that the flags to mark
> /usr dirty were not getting written to disk synchronously, instead
> being delayed by all the other disk activity going on.
>
> -- Jamie
>
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