Re: [PATCH v2] kernel/fork: Increase minimum number of allowed threads

From: Jiri Slaby
Date: Thu Jul 17 2025 - 01:27:14 EST


Cc wqueue & umode helper folks

On 12. 07. 25, 1:08, Hauke Mehrtens wrote:
A modern Linux system creates much more than 20 threads at bootup.
When I booted up OpenWrt in qemu the system sometimes failed to boot up
when it wanted to create the 419th thread. The VM had 128MB RAM and the
calculation in set_max_threads() calculated that max_threads should be
set to 419. When the system booted up it tried to notify the user space
about every device it created because CONFIG_UEVENT_HELPER was set and
used. I counted 1299 calls to call_usermodehelper_setup(), all of
them try to create a new thread and call the userspace hotplug script in
it.

This fixes bootup of Linux on systems with low memory.

I saw the problem with qemu 10.0.2 using these commands:
qemu-system-aarch64 -machine virt -cpu cortex-a57 -nographic

Cc: stable@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Signed-off-by: Hauke Mehrtens <hauke@xxxxxxxxxx>
---
kernel/fork.c | 2 +-
1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/kernel/fork.c b/kernel/fork.c
index 7966c9a1c163..388299525f3c 100644
--- a/kernel/fork.c
+++ b/kernel/fork.c
@@ -115,7 +115,7 @@
/*
* Minimum number of threads to boot the kernel
*/
-#define MIN_THREADS 20
+#define MIN_THREADS 600

As David noted, this is not the proper fix. It appears that usermode helper should use limited thread pool. I.e. instead of system_unbound_wq, alloc_workqueue("", WQ_UNBOUND, max_active) with max_active set to max_threads divided by some arbitrary constant (3? 4?)?

regards,
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js
suse labs