Re: [PATCH 2/3] lsm: introduce security_lsm_manage_policy hook

[John Johansen]

On 5/7/25 13:25, Paul Moore wrote:
> On Wed, May 7, 2025 at 6:41 AM Tetsuo Handa
> <penguin-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On 2025/05/06 23:32, Maxime Bélair wrote:
> > > diff --git a/security/lsm_syscalls.c b/security/lsm_syscalls.c
> > > index dcaad8818679..b39e6635a7d5 100644
> > > --- a/security/lsm_syscalls.c
> > > +++ b/security/lsm_syscalls.c
> > > @@ -122,5 +122,10 @@ SYSCALL_DEFINE3(lsm_list_modules, u64 __user *, ids, u32 __user *, size,
> > >   SYSCALL_DEFINE5(lsm_manage_policy, u32, lsm_id, u32, op, void __user *, buf, u32
> > >                __user *, size, u32, flags)
> > >   {
> > > -     return 0;
> > > +     size_t usize;
> > > +
> > > +     if (get_user(usize, size))
> > > +             return -EFAULT;
> > > +
> > > +     return security_lsm_manage_policy(lsm_id, op, buf, usize, flags);
> > >   }
> >
> > syzbot will report user-controlled unbounded huge size memory allocation attempt. ;-)
> >
> > This interface might be fine for AppArmor, but TOMOYO won't use this interface because
> > TOMOYO's policy is line-oriented ASCII text data where the destination is switched via
> > pseudo‑filesystem's filename ...
>
> While Tetsuo's comment is limited to TOMOYO, I believe the argument
> applies to a number of other LSMs as well.  The reality is that there
> is no one policy ideal shared across LSMs and that complicates things
> like the lsm_manage_policy() proposal.  I'm intentionally saying
> "complicates" and not "prevents" because I don't want to flat out
> reject something like this, but I think there needs to be a larger
> discussion among the different LSM groups about what such an API
> should look like.  We may not need to get every LSM to support this
> new API, but we need to get something that would work for a
> significant majority and would be general/extensible enough that we
> would expect it to work with the majority of future LSMs (as much as
> we can predict the future anyway).

yep, I look at this is just a starting point for discussion. There
isn't going to be any discussion without some code, so here is a v1
that supports a single LSM let the bike shedding begin.