Re: [EXT] Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] dt-bindings: usb: cdns-imx8qm: add imx8qm cdns3 glue bindings

[Krzysztof Kozlowski]

On 22/03/2023 23:15, Frank Li wrote:
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>>>>>>>> On 22/03/2023 15:34, Frank Li wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 2:32 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: Frank Li <frank.li@nxp.
>>>>>>>>>>> +      - const: usb3_aclk
>>>>>>>>>>> +      - const: usb3_ipg_clk
>>>>>>>>>>> +      - const: usb3_core_pclk
>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>>> +  assigned-clocks:
>>>>>>>>>>> +    items:
>>>>>>>>>>> +      - description: Phandle and clock specifoer of
>>>>>>>>>> IMX_SC_PM_CLK_MST_BUS.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Drop useless pieces so "Phandle and clock specifoer of " and
>> name
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> hardware, not the syntax.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>>> +  assigned-clock-rates:
>>>>>>>>>>> +    items:
>>>>>>>>>>> +      - description: Should be in Range 100 - 600 Mhz.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's better but I still do not understand why do you need it in
>> the
>>>>>>>>>> bindings. You never actually answered this question.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am not sure 100% sure the reason.
>>>>>>>>> I think difference system target's  axi bus frequency is difference,
>>>>>>>>> And just one time work, needn't software to manage it.
>>>>>>>>> Following other driver's code style may be another reason.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's the reason of heaving it in DTS. But I am asking about bindings.
>>>>>>>> You do understand you define here interface?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I defined here is descript AXI frequency for usb controller. Supposed
>>>>>> difference
>>>>>>> Platform will have difference working frequency.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't understand how does this answer my concerns of having it in DT
>>>>>> bindings. If you do not add it, you "will have difference working
>>>>>> frequency", so what's the point?
>>>>>
>>>>> For example: imx8qxp, it need set to 250Mhz,  i.MX8QM need set to
>>>> 200Mhz.
>>>>> Maybe future chip can set to 400Mhz.
>>>>
>>>> And? So as you can see you will still have different frequencies, so
>>>> what's the point? What is the benefit? Dunno, maybe we do not
>> understand
>>>> each other, because I don't think you are answering my questions at all.
>>>
>>> Benefit: New chip just need change dts file for the same IP, like change
>> base
>>> Reg address and irq number.
>>
>> To remind - the question was:
>> "That's better but I still do not understand why do you need it in the
>> bindings."
>> If you drop it from the bindings the benefit is still there, so what do
>> you want to prove?
>>
>>>
>>> Your question is:  "why need this assigned-clock-rates
>> IMX_SC_PM_CLK_MST_BUS property?"
>>
>> This was the previous thread. Now, related but slightly different, why
>> do you still need it in the bindings?
>>
>>
>>> My answer: it is one of hardware property, like reg base address and irq
>> number.
>>
>> Sure, it is, I know, and bindings already allow it. Just look at many
>> DTS and their bindings. Do you see the bindings defining this property?
>> No. So why do you think it is needed here? I am asking this since like 6
>> emails and your answers are not related to bindings at all.
>>
>>>
>>> If can't match your expectation, can you change another words or provide
>> me an example?
>>
>> Yeah, just open several DTS and look for assigned-clock, then open their
>> bindings and answer - why do you need to add it to the binding but all
>> other bindings did not have to? If you have the answer, sure, bring
>> these parts of bindings.
> 
> Do you means, Needn't add assigned-clock in binding *document* yaml file?
> And dts file still can use assigned-clock property. 

Yes, I said it many times already...

Best regards,
Krzysztof