Re: [PATCH] x86/speculation: Avoid LFENCE in FILL_RETURN_BUFFER on CPUs that lack it

From: Ben Hutchings
Date: Fri Aug 19 2022 - 07:38:50 EST


On Fri, 2022-08-19 at 13:01 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 10:47:21AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 02:33:08AM +0200, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > > From: Ben Hutchings <benh@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > >
> > > The mitigation for PBRSB includes adding LFENCE instructions to the
> > > RSB filling sequence. However, RSB filling is done on some older CPUs
> > > that don't support the LFENCE instruction.
> > >
> >
> > Wait; what? There are chips that enable the RSB mitigations and DONT
> > have LFENCE ?!?
>
> So I gave in and clicked on the horrible bugzilla thing. Apparently this
> is P3/Athlon64 era crud.
>
> Anyway, the added LFENCE isn't because of retbleed; it is because you
> can steer the jnz and terminate the loop early and then not actually
> complete the RSB stuffing.

I know, I corrected that further down.

> New insights etc.. So it's a geniune fix for the existing rsb stuffing.
>
> I'm not entirly sure what to do here. On the one hand, it's 32bit, so
> who gives a crap, otoh we shouldn't break these ancient chips either I
> suppose.
>
> How's something like so then? It goes on top of my other patch cleaning
> up this RSB mess:
>
> https://lkml.kernel.org/r/Yv9m%2FhuNJLuyviIn%40worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net
[...]

That should be:
https://lore.kernel.org/all/Yv9m%2FhuNJLuyviIn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/
(the redirector unescapes the URL-escaped /).

So that puts the whole __FILL_RETURN_BUFFER inside an alternative, and
we can't have nested alternatives. That's unfortunate.

Ben.

--
Ben Hutchings
Beware of bugs in the above code;
I have only proved it correct, not tried it. - Donald Knuth

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