Re: [PATCH 1/2] media: docs-rst: Document memory-to-memory video decoder interface

From: Ian Arkver
Date: Wed Aug 08 2018 - 02:55:01 EST


Hi Hans,

On 08/08/18 07:43, Hans Verkuil wrote:
On 08/08/2018 05:11 AM, Tomasz Figa wrote:
On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 4:13 PM Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 07/26/2018 12:20 PM, Tomasz Figa wrote:
Hi Hans,

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 8:59 PM Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
+
+14. Call :c:func:`VIDIOC_STREAMON` to initiate decoding frames.
+
+Decoding
+========
+
+This state is reached after a successful initialization sequence. In this
+state, client queues and dequeues buffers to both queues via
+:c:func:`VIDIOC_QBUF` and :c:func:`VIDIOC_DQBUF`, following standard
+semantics.
+
+Both queues operate independently, following standard behavior of V4L2
+buffer queues and memory-to-memory devices. In addition, the order of
+decoded frames dequeued from ``CAPTURE`` queue may differ from the order of
+queuing coded frames to ``OUTPUT`` queue, due to properties of selected
+coded format, e.g. frame reordering. The client must not assume any direct
+relationship between ``CAPTURE`` and ``OUTPUT`` buffers, other than
+reported by :c:type:`v4l2_buffer` ``timestamp`` field.

Is there a relationship between capture and output buffers w.r.t. the timestamp
field? I am not aware that there is one.

I believe the decoder was expected to copy the timestamp of matching
OUTPUT buffer to respective CAPTURE buffer. Both s5p-mfc and coda seem
to be implementing it this way. I guess it might be a good idea to
specify this more explicitly.

What about an output buffer producing multiple capture buffers? Or the case
where the encoded bitstream of a frame starts at one output buffer and ends
at another? What happens if you have B frames and the order of the capture
buffers is different from the output buffers?

In other words, for codecs there is no clear 1-to-1 relationship between an
output buffer and a capture buffer. And we never defined what the 'copy timestamp'
behavior should be in that case or if it even makes sense.

You're perfectly right. There is no 1:1 relationship, but it doesn't
prevent copying timestamps. It just makes it possible for multiple
CAPTURE buffers to have the same timestamp or some OUTPUT timestamps
not to be found in any CAPTURE buffer.

We need to document the behavior. Basically there are three different
corner cases that need documenting:

1) one OUTPUT buffer generates multiple CAPTURE buffers
2) multiple OUTPUT buffers generate one CAPTURE buffer
3) the decoding order differs from the presentation order (i.e. the
CAPTURE buffers are out-of-order compared to the OUTPUT buffers).

For 1) I assume that we just copy the same OUTPUT timestamp to multiple
CAPTURE buffers.

I'm not sure how this interface would handle something like a temporal
scalability layer, but conceivably this assumption might be invalid in
that case.

Regards,
Ian.


For 2) we need to specify if the CAPTURE timestamp is copied from the first
or last OUTPUT buffer used in creating the capture buffer. Using the last
OUTPUT buffer makes more sense to me.

And 3) implies that timestamps can be out-of-order. This needs to be
very carefully documented since it is very unexpected.

This should probably be a separate patch, adding text to the v4l2_buffer
documentation (esp. the V4L2_BUF_FLAG_TIMESTAMP_COPY documentation).

Regards,

Hans