Re: [PATCH net-next] modules: allow modprobe load regular elf binaries

From: Kees Cook
Date: Thu Mar 08 2018 - 20:44:19 EST


On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 5:38 PM, Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 4:59 PM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Also, I don't see how this is any more exploitable than any other
>> init_module().
>
> Absolutely. If Kees doesn't trust the files to be loaded, an
> executable - even if it's running with root privileges and in the
> initns - is still fundamentally weaker than a kernel module.
>
> So I don't understand the security argument AT ALL. It's nonsensical.
> The executable loading does all the same security checks that the
> module loading does, including the signing check.
>
> And the whole point is that we can now do things with building and
> loading a ebpf rule instead of having a full module.

My concerns are mostly about crossing namespaces. If a container
triggers an autoload, the result runs in the init_ns. So, really,
there's nothing new from my perspective, except that it's in userspace
instead of in the kernel.

Perhaps it's an orthogonal concern.

-Kees

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Kees Cook
Pixel Security