Re: [PATCH 1/3] amdkfd: Don't clear *kfd2kgd on kfd_module_init

From: Oded Gabbay
Date: Mon Dec 22 2014 - 02:35:03 EST




On 12/21/2014 06:10 PM, Christian KÃnig wrote:
Am 21.12.2014 um 17:03 schrieb Oded Gabbay:


On 12/21/2014 05:57 PM, Christian KÃnig wrote:
There should be, but when the modules are compiled in, they are loaded based on
link order only, if they are in the same group, and the groups are loaded by a
pre-defined order.
Is that really still up to date? I've seen effort to change that something like
10+ years ago when Rusty reworked the module system. And it is comming up on the
lists again from time to time.
From what I can see in the Makefile rules, code and google, yes, that's still
the situation. If someone will prove me wrong I will be more than happy to
correct my code.

I don't want to move iommu before gpu, so I don't have a solution for the
order between amdkfd and amd_iommu_v2.
Why not? That's still better than creating a kernel workqueue, scheduling one
work item on it, rescheduling the task until everything is completed and you can
continue.
Because I don't know the consequences of moving an entire subsystem in front
of another one. In addition, even if everyone agrees, I'm pretty sure that
Linus won't be happy to do that in -rc stages. So maybe this is something to
consider for 3.20 merge window, but I would still like to provide a solution
for 3.19.

Yeah, true indeed. How about depending on everything being compiled as module
for 3.19 then? Still better than having such a hack in the driver for as a
temporary workaround for one release.

I thought about it, but because this problem was originally reported by a user that told us he couldn't use modules because of his setup, I decided not to.
I assume there are other users out there who needs this option (compiled everything in the kernel - embedded ?), so I don't want to make their life harder.

In addition, saying it is a workaround for one release is true in case moving iommu subsystem in front of gpu subsystem is acceptable and doesn't cause other problems, unknown at this point.

Bottom line, my personal preference is to help the users _now_ and if a better fix is found in the future, change the code accordingly.

Oded

Christian.


Oded

Christian.

Am 21.12.2014 um 14:24 schrieb Oded Gabbay:


On 12/21/2014 03:06 PM, Oded Gabbay wrote:


On 12/21/2014 02:19 PM, Christian KÃnig wrote:
Am 21.12.2014 um 12:34 schrieb Oded Gabbay:


On 12/21/2014 01:27 PM, Christian KÃnig wrote:
Am 20.12.2014 um 21:46 schrieb Oded Gabbay:
When amdkfd and radeon are compiled inside the kernel image (not as
modules),
radeon will load before amdkfd and will set *kfd2kgd to its interface
structure. Therefore, we must not set *kfd2kgd to NULL when amdkfd is
loaded
because it will override radeon's initialization and cause kernel BUG.

Signed-off-by: Oded Gabbay <oded.gabbay@xxxxxxx>

You should probably rather fix the dependency between the two modules to
get an
determined load order instead of doing such nasty workarounds.

Christian.

The problem is that when modules are compiled inside the kernel, there is NO
determined load order and there is no mechanism to enforce that. If there
is/was such a mechanism, I would of course prefer to use it.

There should be an determined order based on the symbol use, otherwise
initializing most of the kernel modules wouldn't work as expected. For
example
radeon depends on the drm module must be loaded before radeon is loaded.
There should be, but when the modules are compiled in, they are loaded
based on
link order only, if they are in the same group, and the groups are loaded by a
pre-defined order.
The groups are: pure, core, postcore, arch, subsys, fs, device (which
represents
all the modules) and late. See init.h

So radeon, amdkfd and amd_iommu_v2 are all in device group, and in the group
they are ordered by their link order.

Yes, radeon loads after drm, because drm*.o are before radeon*.o in the
Makefile. See
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5669647/linux-order-of-statically-linked-module-loading




So I tried moving amdkfd inside the Makefile before radeon, and that made
amdkfd load before radeon did. This solves my first problem - order between
amdkfd and radeon. However, amd_iommu_v2 doesn't belong to the drm Makefile,
and I don't want to move iommu before gpu, so I don't have a solution for the
order between amdkfd and amd_iommu_v2.

Oded




Actually, I don't understand why the kernel doesn't enforce the order
according to the use of exported symbols, like it does with modules.

Yeah, that's indeed rather strange. There must be something in the amdkfd
code
which broke that somehow.
IMO, that's a far-fetched guess. Could you point to something more specific ?


As far as I understand you the desired init order is radeon and amd_iommu_v2
first and then amdkfd, right?
Actually no. The preferred order is amd_iommu_v2, amdkfd and radeon last. This
is the order that happens when all three are built as modules. More
accurately,
radeon inits, but its init triggers amdkfd init, which triggers amd_iommu_v2
init. So before radeon reaches its probe stage, all the modules were
initialized.

So what happens when you boot with radeon,
amd_iommu_v2 and amdkfd blacklisted for automatically load and only load
amdkfd
manually?
As said above, that's ok.

There will always be dependencies between kgd (radeon) and amdkfd and
between
amdkfd and amd_iommu_v2. I don't think I can eliminate those
dependencies, not
without a very complex solution. And the fact that this complex solution
occurs only in a very specific use case (all modules compiled in), makes me
less inclined to do that.

So I don't see it as a "nasty workaround". I would call it just a
"workaround"
for a specific use case, which should be solved by a generic solution to the
kernel enforcing load orders.

The normal kernel module handling already should provide the correct init
order,
so I would still call this a rather nasty workaround because we couldn't find
the underlying problem.
Well, the normal kernel module handling doesn't work when all modules are
compiled in. I'm not a huge expert on this issue so I had Joerg Roedel help me
analyze this (thanks Joerg) and he agreed that there is no enforcement of
order
in this case.


Christian.


Oded

---
drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdkfd/kfd_module.c | 5 ++---
1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdkfd/kfd_module.c
b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdkfd/kfd_module.c
index 95d5af1..236562f 100644
--- a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdkfd/kfd_module.c
+++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdkfd/kfd_module.c
@@ -34,7 +34,7 @@
#define KFD_DRIVER_MINOR 7
#define KFD_DRIVER_PATCHLEVEL 0
-const struct kfd2kgd_calls *kfd2kgd;
+const struct kfd2kgd_calls *kfd2kgd = NULL;
static const struct kgd2kfd_calls kgd2kfd = {
.exit = kgd2kfd_exit,
.probe = kgd2kfd_probe,
@@ -84,14 +84,13 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(kgd2kfd_init);
void kgd2kfd_exit(void)
{
+ kfd2kgd = NULL;
}
static int __init kfd_module_init(void)
{
int err;
- kfd2kgd = NULL;
-
/* Verify module parameters */
if ((sched_policy < KFD_SCHED_POLICY_HWS) ||
(sched_policy > KFD_SCHED_POLICY_NO_HWS)) {


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