Re: [libseccomp-discuss] ARM seccomp filters and EABI/OABI
From: Will Drewry
Date: Tue Oct 29 2013 - 13:48:51 EST
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Paul Moore <pmoore@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Thursday, October 24, 2013 02:14:15 PM Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Paul Moore <pmoore@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 02:02:00 PM Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> >> I'm looking at the seccomp code, the ARM entry code, and the
>> >> syscall(2) manpage, and I'm a bit lost. (The fact that I don't really
>> >> speak ARM assembly doesn't help.)
>> > I suspect Kees, and perhaps Will, will be able to provide the best
>> > answers, but my thoughts are below.
>> >> My basic question is: what happens if an OABI syscall happens?
>> > Well, libseccomp doesn't support ARM OABI and since all the new ARM stuff
>> > is EABI I don't think there is much reason to worry about OABI. I know
>> > this doesn't answer your question, but perhaps this provides some
>> > context.
>> Are you sure you don't support it?
> Yep, I said libseccomp doesn't support it so we don't ;)
> It may build and function to some extent, but I'm making no claims for OABI
> support; if someone tries it on a OABI system they do so as their own risk.
>> What actually happens if someone writes an EABI program that issues an OABI
>> syscall? (I'm hoping that the syscall nr ends up offset by 0x900000, but
>> I'm not sure.)
> Like you, I expect there would be a syscall mismatch but I can't say for
It looks like entry-common.S masks off the 0x900000 so that the
numbers are the same, but the entry path is determined by the software
interrupt instruction (SWI) 8-bit immediate which indicates the type
(which it looks like is read by loading the address(-4) in the link
Then it just swaps the call table if the immediate is non-zero and
uses the arg to call into the oabi version of the syscall table.
I don't think there's a clear way to detect if the oabi table has been
swapped in. I think that the reason that the AUDIT_ARCH is the same
for OABI compat/not compat is that there is no argument ordering or
syscall numbering difference. I'm not 100% though.
>> >> AFAICS, the syscall arguments for EABI are r0..r5, although their
>> >> ordering is a bit odd*.
>> > Hmmm, that could complicate things a bit - do you know if they are put in
>> > a more "standard" order by the time they are accessed in
>> > seccomp_bpf_load() via task_pt_regs()? If not, we likely need to come up
>> > with some special handling in libseccomp to account for this.
>> I don't think that such a think is possible. It depends on the
>> signature of the particular syscall, and I don't know if there's any
>> table of these things.
> Oh, that's all sorts of awesome.
> Well, at least in libseccomp we do have a syscall table for each arch so it
> should be possible to track what per-syscall fixups are needed (assuming some
> augmentation of our syscall table structures) and apply them at runtime. The
> hard part is going to be determining what fixups are needed and recording them
> in the table.
>From looking at the oabi compat calls, it may be that no fixup is
really needed in the BPF side, but only in places where other argument
introspection occurs -- ptrace or sigsys handlers.
>> >> I'm a bit surprised to see that both the EABI and OABI ABIs show up as
>> >> AUDIT_ARCH_ARM.
>> > Yeah, the usage of AUDIT_ARCH_* is not really ideal for seccomp. There
>> > are similar issues with x32; not quite as bad as with ARM, but still ...
>> As long as the combination of AUDIT_ARCH and nr uniquely identifies a
>> syscall and its ABI, life should be good.
> Ha! Life may be good, but the code to handle it was annoying* ;)
> Largely because I made the assumption (which turned out to be a bad) that an
> AUDIT_ARCH_* value uniquely identified a single ABI. Removing that assumption
> was both annoying and painful; the code still isn't very good in dealing with
> multiple ABIs sharing a single AUDIT_ARCH_* token but it works.
It seems like a problem for the audit infrastucture if the calling
conventions are yielding improper system call information -- but I
don't think it is in this case (which is why it seemed to make sense
to connect the two subsystems...). The calls don't seem different,
but the structs are organized, aligned, or padded differently (which
shouldn't matter _too_ much to the seccomp filter unless the arg
ordering is different, etc). Bleh.
[ http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/arch/arm/kernel/sys_oabi-compat.c ]
I'm not sure if pt_regs ends up looking the same, but I was hoping it
did. I realize that the seventh argument is dropped for OABI, but
IIRC, the only call that used it was the syscall() syscall:
which is marked as obsolete in calls.S. I don't think any other OABI
calls (or any other calls in general) pass a seventh argument. *think*
is the operative word though.
Maybe someone who's a bit more confident with the ARM syscall path can weigh in!
> Also, on a related note, does anyone have any experience with any of the cheap
> PC-esque ARM boards/systems that are floating around? I'm to the point of
> considering picking one up for libseccomp development if I can find one that
> supports a standard development environment, decently responsive, and is
> relatively cheap ... anyone?
I might have a spare, not-too-old board around - I'll take a look.
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