Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/3] vfs: Allow rmdir to remove mounts in all but thecurrent mount namespace

From: Andy Lutomirski
Date: Tue Oct 08 2013 - 12:07:00 EST


On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Miklos Szeredi <miklos@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 07, 2013 at 03:25:17PM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> Andy Lutomirski <luto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>>
>> > On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@xxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>> >>
>> >>> Quoting Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm@xxxxxxxxxxxx):
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Programs have been known to test for empty directories by attempting
>> >>>> to remove them. To keep from violating the principle of least
>> >>>> surprise don't let directories the caller can see with someting
>> >>>> mounted on them be deleted.
>> >>>
>> >>> Do you think we should do the same thing for over-mounted file at
>> >>> vfs_unlink()?
>> >>
>> >> We easily could.
>
> And for vfs_rename()?
>
> I think the risks of changing behavior outweigh the benefits. How many times
> did you have to remove or rename a mounted file or directory? It's very rarely
> needed.

I do this every time I reinstall a system while running that system.
Admittedly, mount --move works, but that's a really unpleasant
interface.

When rename2 gets added, there could be a flag RENAME_MOVE_MOUNT to opt in.

--Andy

>
> Thanks,
> Miklos



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Andy Lutomirski
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