Re: [RFC] extending splice for copy offloading

From: Miklos Szeredi
Date: Mon Sep 30 2013 - 08:20:38 EST


On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>>> I don't see the safety argument very compelling either. There are real
>>> semantic differences, however: ENOSPC on a write to a
>>> (apparentlÃy) already allocated block. That could be a bit unexpected.
>>> Do we
>>> need a fallocate extension to deal with shared blocks?
>>
>> The above has been the case for all enterprise storage arrays ever since
>> the invention of snapshots. The NFSv4.2 spec does allow you to set a
>> per-file attribute that causes the storage server to always preallocate
>> enough buffers to guarantee that you can rewrite the entire file, however
>> the fact that we've lived without it for said 20 years leads me to believe
>> that demand for it is going to be limited. I haven't put it top of the list
>> of features we care to implement...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Trond
>
>
> I agree - this has been common behaviour for a very long time in the array
> space. Even without an array, this is the same as overwriting a block in
> btrfs or any file system with a read-write LVM snapshot.

Okay, I'm convinced.

So I suggest

- mount(..., MNT_REFLINK): *allow* splice to reflink. If this is not
set, fall back to page cache copy.
- splice(... SPLICE_REFLINK): fail non-reflink copy. With this app
can force reflink.

Both are trivial to implement and make sure that no backward
incompatibility surprises happen.

My other worry is about interruptibility/restartability. Ideas?

What happens on splice(from, to, 4G) and it's a non-reflink copy?
Can the page cache copy be made restartable? Or should splice() be
allowed to return a short count? What happens on (non-reflink) remote
copies and huge request sizes?

Thanks,
Miklos
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