Re: [RFC][PATCH] drivers: base: dynamic memory block creation

From: Dave Hansen
Date: Wed Aug 14 2013 - 16:05:43 EST


On 08/14/2013 12:43 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 02:31:45PM -0500, Seth Jennings wrote:
>> ppc64 has a normal memory block size of 256M (however sometimes as low
>> as 16M depending on the system LMB size), and (I think) x86 is 128M. With
>> 1TB of RAM and a 256M block size, that's 4k memory blocks with 20 sysfs
>> entries per block that's around 80k items that need be created at boot
>> time in sysfs. Some systems go up to 16TB where the issue is even more
>> severe.
>
> The x86 developers are working with larger memory sizes and they haven't
> seen the problem in this area, for them it's in other places, as I
> referred to in my other email.

The SGI guys don't run normal distro kernels and don't turn on memory
hotplug, so they don't see this. I do the same in my testing of
large-memory x86 systems to speed up my boots. I'll go stick it back in
there and see if I can generate some numbers for a 1TB machine.

But, the problem on x86 is at _worst_ 1/8 of the problem on ppc64 since
the SECTION_SIZE is so 8x bigger by default.

Also, the cost of creating sections on ppc is *MUCH* higher than x86
when amortized across the number of pages that you're initializing. A
section on ppc64 has to be created for each (2^24/2^16)=256 pages while
one on x86 is created for each (2^27/2^12)=32768 pages.

Thus, x86 folks with our small pages and large sections tend to be
focused on per-page costs. The ppc folks with their small sections and
larger pages tend to be focused on the per-section costs.
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