Re: [PATCH 01/12] Security: Add CAP_COMPROMISE_KERNEL

From: Vivek Goyal
Date: Thu Mar 21 2013 - 12:09:59 EST


On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:58:23AM -0500, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> Quoting Vivek Goyal (vgoyal@xxxxxxxxxx):
> > On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:37:25AM -0500, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> > > Quoting Vivek Goyal (vgoyal@xxxxxxxxxx):
> > > ...
> > > > Giving CAP_MODIFY_KERNEL to processess upon signature verification
> > > > will simplify things a bit.
> > > >
> > > > Only thing is that signature verification alone is not sufficient. We
> > > > also need to make sure after signature verification executable can
> > > > not be modified in memory in any way. So that means atleast couple of
> > > > things.
> > >
> > > Also what about context? If I construct a mounts namespace a certain
> > > way, can I trick this executable into loading an old singed bzImage that
> > > I had laying around?
> >
> > We were thinking that /sbin/kexec will need to verify bzImage signature
> > before loading it.
> >
> > Key for verification is in kernel so idea was to take kernel's help
> > in verifying signature.
> >
> > Not sure how exactly the interface should look like.
> >
> > - I was thinking may be process can mmap() the bzImage with MAP_LOCKED.
> > We can create additional flag say MAP_VERIFY_SIG_POST, which tries
> > to verify signature/integrity of mapped region of file after mapping and
> > locking pages and mmap() fails if signature verification fails.
> >
> > There have been suggestions about creating new system call altogether.
> >
> > >
> > > ISTM the only sane thing to do, if you're going down this road,
> > > is to have CAP_MODIFIY_KERNEL pulled from bounding set for everyone
> > > except a getty started by init on ttyS0. Then log in on serial
> > > to update. Or run a damon with CAP_MODIFIY_KERNEL which listens
> > > to a init_net_ns netlink socket for very basic instructions, like
> > > "find and install latest signed bzImage in /boot". Then you can
> > > at least trust that /boot for that daemon is not faked.
> >
> > daemon does not have the key and can't verify signature of signed
> > bzImage. Even if it had the key, it can't trust the crypto code for
> > signature verification as none of that is signed.
>
> I'm not saying not to use the kernel to verify the signature.

Ok. So why can't /sbin/kexec can do the verification of bzImage with
kernel's help. Due to crafted /boot/ it might load old signed bzImage,
but it can't load unsigned/untrusted code on secureboot system at ring 0.

I am hoping I did not miss your point entirely.

Thanks
Vivek
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