Re: Linux 2.6.35/TIPC 2.0 ABI breaking changes

From: Paul Gortmaker
Date: Mon Oct 18 2010 - 19:12:23 EST


On 10-10-18 06:17 PM, David Miller wrote:
> From: Paul Gortmaker<paul.gortmaker@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 16:42:33 -0400
>
>> If you have access to the user space code in question, you can just
>> switch behaviour semantics based on the results of a uname call, knowing
>> that this change was included in versions since approx last Feb. There
>> is also /proc/version which can be parsed manually if you prefer.
>
> Requiring userspace to check kernel versioning information in order
> to user an exported userspace API correctly is _ALWAYS_ _WRONG_.
>
> You cannot and must not make backwards incompatible changes to
> userspace interfaces.

What I think has happened here (and I'll double check this
tomorrow, since it is before I started assisting with tipc)
is that a backwards incompatible change *did* inadvertently
creep in via these two (related) commits:

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commit d88dca79d3852a3623f606f781e013d61486828a
Author: Neil Horman <nhorman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon Mar 8 12:20:58 2010 -0800

tipc: fix endianness on tipc subscriber messages
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and

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commit c6537d6742985da1fbf12ae26cde6a096fd35b5c
Author: Jon Paul Maloy <jon.maloy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue Apr 6 11:40:52 2010 +0000

TIPC: Updated topology subscription protocol according to latest spec
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Based on Leandro's info, I think it comes down to userspace
not knowing exactly where to find these bits anymore:

#define TIPC_SUB_SERVICE 0x00 /* Filter for service availability */
#define TIPC_SUB_PORTS 0x01 /* Filter for port availability */
#define TIPC_SUB_CANCEL 0x04 /* Cancel a subscription */

...because it doesn't know if there is the old auto endian
swap thing being done or not being done.

Assuming it is possible to do so in some non-kludgy way,
it sounds like we want to be looking into an in-kernel change
that ensures the older user space binaries get their
functionality restored then?

Thanks,
Paul.
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