Re: [patch 2/2] x86 NMI-safe INT3 and Page Fault

[Avi Kivity]

On 07/16/2010 09:37 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Avi Kivity<avi@xxxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
>    
> > Use kmalloc and percpu pointers, it's not that onerous.
> >      
> What people don't seem to understand is that WE SHOULD NOT MAKE NMI
> FORCE US TO DO "STRANGE" CODE IN CODE-PATHS THAT HAVE NOTHING
> WHAT-SO-EVER TO DO WITH NMI.
>
> I'm shouting, because this point seems to have been continually
> missed. It was missed in the original patches, and it's been missed in
> the discussions.
>
> Non-NMI code should simply never have to even _think_ about NMI's. Why
> should it? It should just do whatever comes "natural" within its own
> context.
>
>    

But we're not talking about non-NMI code.  The 8k referred to in the 
original patch are buffers used by NMI stack recording.  Module code 
vmalloc_sync_all() is only need by code that is executed during NMI, 
hence must be NMI aware.

> This is why I've been pushing for the "let's just fix NMI" approach.
> Not adding random hacks to other code sequences that have nothing
> what-so-ever to do with NMI.
>    

"fixing NMI" will result in code that is understandable by maybe three 
people after long and hard thinking.  NMI can happen in too many 
semi-defined contexts, so there will be plenty of edge cases.  I'm not 
sure we can ever trust such trickery.

> So don't add NMI code to the page fault code. Not to the debug code,
> or to the module loading code. Don't say "use special allocations
> because the NMI code may care about these particular data structures".
> Because that way lies crap and unmaintainability.
>    

If NMI code can call random hooks and access random data, yes.  But I 
don't think we're at that point yet.


--
I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
signature is too narrow to contain.

--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/