Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6)

From: Matthew Garrett
Date: Tue May 11 2010 - 14:01:59 EST


On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:48:58AM -0700, Tony Lindgren wrote:
> * Matthew Garrett <mjg@xxxxxxxxxx> [100511 10:25]:
> > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:24:43AM -0700, Tony Lindgren wrote:
> >
> > > For the failed suspend path in the kernel, currently the kernel would
> > > unwind back all the drivers because of the failed driver, but that path
> > > should be possible to optimize.
> >
> > If you think it's possible to make this work then feel free to. But at
> > the point where you're adding code to every driver's suspend function to
> > determine whether or not it's got any pending events that userspace
> > hasn't consumed yet, and adding code to every bit of userspace to allow
> > it to indicate whether or not it's busy consuming events or just busy
> > drawing 3D bouncing cattle, I think you've reinvented suspend blocks.
>
> Sorry, I have a working system that idles nicely and stays up on
> batteries for a long time while running. I don't need to implement
> anything like this :)

Right, but your system will only idle nicely if all of your userspace is
well-written. It's not reasonable to expect that all userspace will be
well-written and thus it's necessary to implement a power management
strategy that doesn't require that. Refusing an implementation that
achieves that on the basis that there's hypothetically a better way of
doing it is entirely unreasonable.

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