Re: [RFC] [PATCH 0/2] Futex fault injection

[Darren Hart]

Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Peter Zijlstra <peterz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 11:33 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > * Sripathi Kodi <sripathik@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > This patch set adds fault injection for futex subsystem. It adds 
> > > > faults at places where reading/writing from user space can return 
> > > > EFAULT. This will be useful in testing any significant change to futex 
> > > > subsystem.
> > > Instead of this unacceptably ugly and special-purpose debugfs 
> > > interface, please extend perf events to allow event injection. Some 
> > > other places in the kernel (which deal with rare events) want/need 
> > > this capability too.
> > Thing is, he's using the 'normal' fault injection code to do this, I 
> > see no objection to doing that.
>
> Yes - but its impact to the futex code is butt-ugly. That some facility 
> is in the kernel does not mean it gets a free pass to be applied 
> everywhere and anywhere.

I don't think the "butt-ugly" argument is enough to reject the patch. 
It's a fairly subjective metric and I don't think the proposed solution 
results in "pretty" code either. In fact the super long function names 
and multi-line conditionals are arguably "ugly" (maybe not "butt-ugly" 
though). :-)

However, the arguments are solid and I understand wanting to introduce a 
new feature in a particular way. Has there been any work done on perf 
event injection up to this point or would this be a completely new perf 
feature?

--
Darren

> An example of that would be tracepoints - there's no free pass to add 
> tracepoints in new places and some maintainers elect to use different 
> facilities. (or reject all current facilities)
>
> > If you want to redo the fault injection subsystem, then that's another 
> > story, but then we need to convert all of its users over.
>
> What i want to see is sane code in futex.c. If we add hooks/callbacks 
> i'd like it to be a complete solution helping a lot of usecases not some 
> limited approach helping testability only.
>
> Thanks,
>
> 	Ingo


--
Darren Hart
IBM Linux Technology Center
Real-Time Linux Team
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