Re: [announce] new rt2800 drivers for Ralink wireless & projecttree

From: Ingo Molnar
Date: Wed Nov 04 2009 - 03:37:57 EST

* Ivo van Doorn <ivdoorn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> > MAINTAINERS: add rt2800 entry
> I see you decided to take over the maintainership? Doesn't that need
> the current maintainer to move away, or was this part of the "going
> over other peoples head" plan?
> [...]
> These are too much (and too big) patches for me to review at once,
> I'll look at them later.

Frankly, having read through the recent discussions related to the
rt2800pci/usb drivers, the subtle (and largely undeserved) group
violence and abuse you are inflicting on Bart is stomach-turning.

The non-working rt2800pci driver has been pending in your private tree
for how long, 1.5 _years_?

Look at the diffstat of Bart's driver:

15 files changed, 4036 insertions(+), 7158 deletions(-)

He reduced your 5.2 KLOC non-working driver into a 1.8 KLOC _working_

And _still_ your complaint about Bart's series is that he updated the
MAINTAINERS entry and added an entry for rt2800? Heck _sure_ he should
update it, he is the one doing the hard work of trying to bring it to
users, trying to clean up a messy driver space, trying to turn crap into

The thing is, if you dont have the time or interest to listen to and act
upon review feedback, be constructive about it and fix (obvious)
structural problems in your rt2800 code, you should just step aside and
let Bart maintain what he is apparently more capable of maintaining than
you are.

What you are doing here is a thinly veiled land-grab: you did a minimal
token driver for rt2800 that doesnt work, kept it in your private tree
for _1.5 years_, and the moment someone _else_ came along and did
something better and more functional in drivers/staging/, you discovered
your sudden interest for it and moved the crappy driver upstream at
lightning's speed (it is already in net-next AFAICS, despite negative
test and review feedback) - ignoring and throwing away all the work that
Bart has done.

Such behavior wouldnt fly in _any_ other Linux subsystem, but apparently
there is one set of rules for upstream kernel maintainers and then
there's another, different set of rules for upstream wireless driver

Really, you should listen to contrary opinion and _you_ should work
_hard_ to integrate Bart socially and open up your close circle of
wireless insiders instead of fighting his 'outsider' contributions every
which way. We dont care if people are rough, express displeasure and
show strong opinion about crappy code - but the moment you are
_excluding_ capable people and playing petty office politics (like you
are very clearly doing it with Bart here) everyone loses.

Guys, show some minimal amount of honesty, openness and critical
thinking please ...

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