Re: [xfs-masters] Re: freeze vs freezer

From: Rafael J. Wysocki
Date: Sun Jun 29 2008 - 19:21:19 EST


On Monday, 30 of June 2008, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 05:09:10PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > > Is this the same thing the per-device IO-queue-freeze patches for
> > > >HDAPS also
> > > > need to do? If so, you may want to talk to Elias Oltmanns
> > > > <eo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> about it. Added to CC.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the heads up Henrique. Even though these issues seem to be
> > > related up to a certain degree, there probably are some important
> > > differences. When suspending a system, the emphasis is on leaving the
> > > system in a consistent state (think of journalled file systems), whereas
> > > disk shock protection is mainly concerned with stopping I/O as soon as
> > > possible. As yet, I cannot possibly say to what extend these two
> > > concepts can be reconciled in the sense of sharing some common code.
> >
> > Actually, I believe requirements are same.
> >
> > 'don't do i/o in dangerous period'.
> >
> > swsusp will just do sync() before entering dangerous period. That
> > provides consistent-enough state...
>
> As I've said many times before - if the requirement is "don't do
> I/O" then you have to freeze the filesystem. In no way does 'sync'
> prevent filesystems from doing I/O.....

Well, it seems we can handle this on the block layer level, by temporarily
replacing the elevator with something that will selectively prevent fs I/O
from reaching the layers below it.

I talked with Jens about it on a very general level, but it seems doable at
first sight.

Thanks,
Rafael
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