Re: A unresponsive file system can hang all I/O in the system on linux-2.6.23-rc6 (dirty_thresh problem?)
From: Chakri n
Date: Fri Sep 28 2007 - 17:36:55 EST
Here is a the snapshot of vmstats when the problem happened. I believe
this could help a little.
crash> kmem -V
In my testing, I always saw the processes are waiting in
balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited(), never in throttle_vm_writeout()
But this could be because I have about 4Gig of memory in the system
and plenty of mem is still available around.
I will rerun the test limiting memory to 1024MB and lets see if it
takes in any different path.
On 9/28/07, Andrew Morton <akpm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:32:18 -0400
> Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 13:10 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:52:28 -0400
> > > Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 12:26 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:16:11 -0400 Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > Looking back, they were getting caught up in
> > > > > > balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited() and friends. See the attached
> > > > > > example...
> > > > >
> > > > > that one is nfs-on-loopback, which is a special case, isn't it?
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure that the hang that is illustrated here is so special. It is
> > > > an example of a bog-standard ext3 write, that ends up calling the NFS
> > > > client, which is hanging. The fact that it happens to be hanging on the
> > > > nfsd process is more or less irrelevant here: the same thing could
> > > > happen to any other process in the case where we have an NFS server that
> > > > is down.
> > >
> > > hm, so ext3 got stuck in nfs via __alloc_pages direct reclaim?
> > >
> > > We should be able to fix that by marking the backing device as
> > > write-congested. That'll have small race windows, but it should be a 99.9%
> > > fix?
> > No. The problem would rather appear to be that we're doing
> > per-backing_dev writeback (if I read sync_sb_inodes() correctly), but
> > we're measuring variables which are global to the VM. The backing device
> > that we are selecting may not be writing out any dirty pages, in which
> > case, we're just spinning in balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited().
> OK, so it's unrelated to page reclaim.
> > Should we therefore perhaps be looking at adding per-backing_dev stats
> > too?
> That's what mm-per-device-dirty-threshold.patch and friends are doing.
> Whether it works adequately is not really known at this time.
> Unfortunately kernel developers don't test -mm much.
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