Re: [PATCH 2.6.20-rc4 0/4] futexes functionalities and improvements

From: Pierre Peiffer
Date: Fri Jan 12 2007 - 02:55:20 EST


Andrew Morton a écrit :
> OK. Unfortunately patches 2-4 don't apply without #1 present and the fix
> is not immediately obvious, so we'll need a respin+retest, please.

Ok, I'll provide updated patches for -mm ASAP.

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 09:47:28 -0800
Ulrich Drepper <drepper@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

if the patches allow this, I'd like to see parts 2, 3, and 4 to be in
-mm ASAP. Especially the 64-bit variants are urgently needed. Just
hold off adding the plist use, I am still not convinced that
unconditional use is a good thing, especially with one single global list.

Just to avoid any misunderstanding (I (really) understand your point about performance issue), but:

* the problem I mention about several futexes hashed on the same key, and thus with all potential waiters listed on the same list, is _not_ a new problem which comes with this patch: it already exists today, with simple list.

* the measures of performance done with pthread_broadcast (and thus with futex_requeue) is a good choice (well, may be not realistic, when considering real applications (*)) to put in evidence the performance impact, rather than threads making FUTEX_WAIT/FUTEX_WAKE: what is expensive with plist is the plist_add operation (which occurs in FUTEX_WAIT), not plist_del (which occurs during FUTEX_WAKE => thus, no big impact should be noticed here). Any measure will be difficult to do with only FUTEX_WAIT/WAKE.

=> futex_requeue does as many plist_del/plist_add operations as the number of threads waiting (minus 1), and thus has a direct impact on the time needed to wake everybody (or to wake the first thread to be more precise).

(*) I'll try the volano bench, if I have time.


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Pierre
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