Re: PAE/NX without performance drain?
From: John Richard Moser
Date: Sun Dec 10 2006 - 10:38:19 EST
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Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-12-09 at 15:39 -0500, John Richard Moser wrote:
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>> Apparently (as I've been told today) using a hardware NX bit in a 32-bit
>> x86 kernel requires PAE mode. PAE mode is enabled with HIGHMEM64, which
>> is (apparently) extremely slow.
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> it's not extremely slow.
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> there is a minor performance delta, sure, but to be honest that's a
> benchmark thing more than a real life thing.
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> What did your measurements show that the slowdown was? And how did you
> measure this?
I didn't measure, I was told by various people on IRC. Also Google has
some misleading facts:
- Someone mentioned that HIGHMEM64G + 4G split costs 10%-30%. I
immediately took that as "4G split might be friggin' expensive."
- In some discussions Ingo mentioned HIGHMEM64G re RT preemption being
a huge performance delta; but I haven't found evidence that this
isn't a bug in RT.
Too bad PAE can't be detected at boot time; someone else mentioned that
some recent Pentium M laptops (and anything older than PPro) don't boot
if PAE is on. Making 2 copies of the functions would be a pain in the
ass; and using indirect addressing and function pointers would be...
slow. In performance critical areas.
I want my hardware NX bit working in Ubuntu without having to recompile
my kernel dammit. How do I swing this one past them? The performance I
can argue; breaking 586 and some random laptops (I've been contacted by
someone who has several of these Pentium-M machines that die on PAE) I
can't do.
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