Re: New filesystem for Linux

From: Mikulas Patocka
Date: Sun Nov 05 2006 - 12:18:35 EST


And possibly some broken drives may also return you something that
they think is good data but really is not (shouldn't happen since
both disks and cables should be protected by checksums, but hey...
you can never be absolutely sure especially on very big storages).

It happens because
- There is limited if any protection on the PCI bus generally
- Many PC systems don't have ECC memory, ECC cache
- PATA does not CRC protect the command block so if you do enough PATA
I/O (eg you are a US national lab ..) you *will* eventually get a bit
flip that gives you the wrong sector with no error data. SATA fixes that
one.
- Murphy is out to get you..

Should IDE driver read back parameters after writing them before issuing the command? That should fix this problem. (except when command is written badly)

Not seen that, although they do move stuff aorund in their internal
block management of bad blocks. I've also seen hardware errors that lead
to data being messed up silently.

I have seen one WD drive bought in 2003 having error in its firmware in cache-coherency code --- if you read and write 256 sectors to the same places with some pattern repeatedly (with direct IO), it will discard a write. It happens only with 256-sector writes, maybe some part of firmware treats 256 as 0. Maybe I create testcase sometimes.

Mikulas

Alan

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