Re: [ckrm-tech] Re: [RFC][patch 00/21] PID Virtualization:Overview and Patches

From: Dave Hansen
Date: Fri Dec 16 2005 - 16:10:14 EST


On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 12:45 -0800, Gerrit Huizenga wrote:
> Interesting... So how to tasks get *into* a container?

Only by inheritance.

> And can they ever get back "out" of a container?

No. Think of the pids again. Even the "outside" of a container, things
like the real init, have to have unique pids. What if the process's pid
is the same as one in use in the default container?

> Are most processes on the system
> initially not in a container? And then they can be stuffed in a container?
> And then containers can be moved around or be isolated from each other?

The current idea is that processes are assigned at fork-time. The
isolation is for the lifetime of the process.

> And, is pid virtualization the point where this happens? Or is that
> a slightly higher level? In other words, is pid virtualization the
> full implementation of container isolation? Or is it a significant
> element on which additional policy, restrictions, and usage models
> can be built?

pid virtualization is simply the one that's easiest to understand, and
the one that demonstrates the largest number of issues. It is a small
piece of the puzzle, but an important one.

-- Dave

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