Re: [PATCH 1b/7] dlm: core locking

From: Daniel Phillips
Date: Tue Apr 26 2005 - 19:53:53 EST

On Tuesday 26 April 2005 19:04, Steven Dake wrote:
> ...Your performance impressions may be swayed by the benchmark results in
> this message...
> We have been over this before... In September 2004, I posted benchmarks
> to lkml (in a response to your questions about performance numbers)
> which show messages per second of 7820 for 100 byte messages.

Hi Steven,

The source of the benchmark I alluded to is lost in the mists of my foggy
memory, however the numbers you just gave seem to be about the same as I

I get >>several hundred thousand<< synchronization messages per second in my
cluster block devices, using ordinary tcp sockets over 100 MHz ethernet.
This may help put things in perspective.

> I'd be
> impressed to see any other protocol deliver that number of messages per
> second (in and of itself), maintain self delivery, implicit
> acknowledgement, agreed ordering, and virtual synchrony...

Well, the way I do it is so much faster than what you're seeing that I can
easily justify putting in the extra effort to resolve issues that virtual
synchrony would apparently solve for me automagically.

Please let me save the details for a post tomorrow. Then I will wax poetic
about what we do, or plan to do, to solve the various nasty problems that
come up as a result of membership changes, so that nobody runs such risks as
receiving messages from a node that thinks it is in the cluster but actually

> <benchmarks>
> Are you suggesting this is a dribble?

Sorry, in my world, that's a dribble ;-)

I stand by my statement that this is too slow to handle the heavy lifting, and
is marginal even for "slow path" cluster recovery. But if you think
otherwise, you can easily prove it, see below.

> Your suggestion, reworking redhat's cluster suite to use virtual
> synchrony (as a demo?), sounds intrigueing. However, I just don't have
> the bandwidth at this time to take on any more projects (although I am
> happy to support redhat's use of virtual synchrony). The community,
> however, would very much benefit from redhat leading such an effort.

I did not suggest reworking Red Hat's cluster suite. I suggested reworking
_one file_ of my cluster snapshot device. This file was designed to be
reworked by someone such as yourself, even someone without an enormous amount
of time on their hands. This file (agent.c) does not handle the high-speed
block device synchronization, it only handles inter-node recovery messages
and other slow-path chores.

For your convenience, the cluster snapshot device can be operated entirely
independently of the rest of the cluster suite, and you don't even need a


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