Re: 2.6.9-mm1

From: Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando
Date: Sun Oct 24 2004 - 07:41:58 EST


Hans Reiser wrote:

Andrew Morton wrote:


- reiser4: not sure, really. The namespace extensions were disabled,
although all the code for that is still present. Linus's filesystem
criterion used to be "once lots of people are using it, preferably when
vendors are shipping it". That's a bit of a chicken and egg thing though.
Needs more discussion.



No distro using reiserfs V3 as the default is going to keep doing so once reiser4 meets their stability requirements. Reiserfs is used by a lot of people, and reiser4 obsoletes it, and the users know that.

I agree that OS that choose ReiserFS for default now will adopt Reiser4 instead ReiserFS 3, .... but they need to continue
to support ReiserFS 3 as well Reiser4 ...

In some sense this is equivalent to ext2 and ext3.

Thanks,
Giovanni


None of the distros have expressed any intent of staying on V3, and they'd be silly to do it. Many of them have expressed a desire to use reiser4. Next year, indications are that reiser4 usage by distros as their default will exceed that which is today possessed by V3. The higher performance of V4 is going to increase our market share.

I would like to encourage its inclusion as an experimental filesystem BEFORE vendors ship it. I think first putting experimental stuff in the kernels used by hackers makes sense. I think it creates more of a community.

I'd like to point out that there is a lot of stuff in the kernel that is a lot less stable than reiser4.

That said, inclusion in -mm found some bugs, and we are still testing one of the fixes which was a bit deep. I want to finish that testing (not more than 7 days) and send you all fixes before asking for inclusion.

Also, Hellwig made a valid point about getting rid of some macros that reduce readability (I also hate code that prevents editors finding called functions), and zam is working on fixing that.

Lindows is planning on shipping with reiser4 in its next release. I would very much like to see our inclusion before that.



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