Re: The argument for fs assistance in handling archives

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> Martin J. Bligh wrote:
|>>For 30 years nothing much has happened in Unix filesystem semantics
|>>because of sheer cowardice
> |
> |
> | Or because it works fine, and isn't broken.

> Ok, maybe it wasn't cowardice.  Maybe it was laziness.

> Because cowardice tells me that data corruption is bad.  Data corruption
> kills kittens.  End data corruption now!

> Unfortunately, the only way to allow files to survive a crash is to
> implement transactions.  The simplest way is to do it in the filesystem
> and to export an interface to userland.  This is what Hans is doing,
> though AFAIK it's not done yet.

  I thought reiser4 had its journaling and atomic commits. Am I
  mistaken? I run reiser4 as primary fs on my test systems and it seem
  to work as expected.

> Laziness tells me that I should just use Windows anyway, because "it
> works".  Switching to Linux requires training, porting apps requires
> work, and using Linux instead of Windows is a hell of a lot more work
> than just patching programs to do something like

> + start_transaction()
> ~  write()
> ~  blah()
> ~  write()
> + end_transaction()

> How'd you like to be able to tell users "If a file gets corrupted, it's
> either a bug in OpenOffice or your hardware eats data."
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