Re: Intel vs AMD x86-64

From: Bill Davidsen
Date: Wed Feb 25 2004 - 10:38:00 EST


Timothy Miller wrote:

I've been reading some people's comments relating to this, and it reflects a glimmer of an idea that occurred to me initially. To begin with, I completely agree that it was unethical for Intel to imply that this was their innovation, giving no credit to AMD. It was wrong, and they should be ashamed.

Actually, it is unclear enough to me if the Intel chips will have any technical advantages that I have postponed buying the dual Opteron I was planning for 1Q04 until I read the Intel specs more carefully.

These are the issues of interest:
- hyperthreading

will Intel offer it and will it be in some way better than the 10-30% gain I see from HT on a P4.

- cost

If Intel follows the previous price models for new chips they are not in any way going to be competitive on cost/performance. On the other hand they know that, they know they are playing catch-up in this market, and they might be aggressive for a change.

- SSE3

what does it provide, is it in any way useful for anything I ever do, and will gcc or the free for personal use Intel C compiler support it?

- availability

will this be a product or just a product announcement? I can wait until 2Q04 if there's a reason to do so, after that I assume it's just FUD.

- will it work

or will it follow Itanium and take another generation before it runs faster than the hardware emulator? Speaking of which, I would like Intel to release the hardware emulator so I can do benchmarking now.

Having HT in a single package has some advantages, but talk is cheap, and AMD is shipping. I personally hope it works really well and keeps prices down.

--
bill on the road
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