Re: What's left over.

From: Pavel Machek (pavel@ucw.cz)
Date: Thu Oct 31 2002 - 17:53:13 EST


Hi!

> > Without ACLs, if Sally, Joe and Bill need rw access to a file/dir, just
> > create another group with just those three people in. Over time, of
>
> If Sally, Joe and Bill need rw access to a directory, and Joe and Bill
> are using existing userland (any OS I'd seen), then Sally can easily
> fuck them into the next month and not in a good way.

Do you mean symlink attack?

> _That_ is the real problem. Until that is solved (i.e. until all
> userland is written up to the standards allegedly followed in writing
> suid-root programs wrt hostile filesystem modifications) NO mechanism
> will help you. ACLs, huge groups, whatever - setups with that sort
> of access allowed are NOT SUSTAINABLE with the current userland(s).

So userland needs to be improved. It already needs that modifications
because of /tmp. Is there any new issue there?
                                                                Pavel

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