Wow, this is what I need. Would there be any interest in having this
syscall in Linux, as I need to design something like this anyways for
the research we are doing.
A first stab implementation would probably be as a module (as our
research is based on a being usable just as a loadable module, w/o any
direct kernel patch need, therefore until something is accepted into the
kernel, we would need it like this), but we'd prefer it, and it
definitely would be cleaner to have the jail tests integrated into the
syscall and not wrapped by the module.
I'd aim to fit in w/ the bsd api (looks feasable, though I was struck by
the fact that each bsd syscall seems to take some proc struct (though
not exposed to userspace), was wondering if that's there equiv of a
task_struct)
thanks,
shaya
On Fri, 2002-07-05 at 12:17, Ville Herva wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 11:16:34AM -0400, you [Hank Leininger] wrote:
> >
> > No, there are many ways that root can break out of chroot(2). I maintain
> > some patches[1] against 2.2 (and grsecurity[2] has ported most of them to
> > 2.4) which aim to try to make it harder for root to break out of chroot(2),
> > but I won't say I've got them all--in fact I'll say I'm sure I *don't* have
> > them all, and I'd like to hear suggestions for more. Here are some things
> > to worry about:
>
> I was skimming through FreeBSD jail(2) documents
> (http://docs.freebsd.org/44doc/papers/jail/jail.html).
>
> Compared to jail
> (http://docs.freebsd.org/44doc/papers/jail/jail-5.html#section5):
>
> > -chroot(2)'ing with an open directory fd
> > -prevent chroot(2) by a process already chrooted ("double-chroot")
>
> Jail thwarts these.
>
> > -block mount(2) attempts inside chroot ("chroot(../..)" ...)
> > -block mknod of char or block devices inside chroot ("mknod /dev/hda",
> > "mknod /dev/kmem")
>
> Also prohibited in jail.
>
> > -block chmod +s by a chrooted process
>
> Jail appears to allow this, and you can't get out of jail as (jailed) root
> anyway.
>
> > -block ptrace(2) by a chrooted process of processes outside the jail
>
> I believe jail prohibits this as well (through its p_trespass() mechanism).
>
> > -block most signals by a chrooted process to processes outside the jail
>
> Likewise - it blocks all signals in and out from jail.
>
> > -block setting capabilities (capset) by a chrooted process of processes
> > outside the jail
>
> (No idea)
>
> > -drop "dangerous" capabilities when chroot(2)'ing. (See the patch, but
> > basically, various *_ADMIN, *RAW*, etc to block ioctl, sysctl for
> > dangerous things.)
>
> Jail takes care of this by only allowing 35 operations for jailed root (out
> of the 260 allowed for normal root). Capabilies are propably better in linux
> context.
>
> > One area I have not looked at sufficiently is sysv IPC (shared memory,
> > semaphores...). It's quite possible that a chrooted process can tamper
> > with shared memory segments that other, outside-chroot processes are using
> > (especially if some app is designed to use them to communicate across the
> > chroot boundary; I don't know of any but they could exist) and use that
> > vector to attack and try to subvert the other, non-chrooted process(es).
>
> I would imagine the p_trespass() check is used in FreeBSD to disallow any
> memory sharing between processes that are not in the same jail.
>
> In addition to what has been mentioned above, jail(2) notably limits jailed
> processes to one ip number (that of jail's). That way the jailed processes
> can't connect to hosts services (even through localhost interface) unless
> they listen to jail's ip, nor bind to any ip but the one that has been
> granted to the jail. They also do not allow any ipconfig, routing or kernel
> parameter changes etc from within a jail.
>
> In general, I wonder if it would make sense to aim for something like
> jail(2). Chroot has its shortcomings, and I take it that many of them have
> to be preserved to maintain standard compliance. Jail isolates processes
> more completely than chroot is ever ment to.
>
> FreeBSD implements jail by adding a jail pointer to struct proc - I'm not
> sure how much of that should/could be done with mere capabilities in linux,
> and how much of the "fortificated chroot" implementation jail has overlaps
> with Al Viro's namespaces.
>
> All in all, I've seen suprisingly little conversation about jail on
> lkml. What do people think of it?
>
>
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>
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