Re: [PATCH] Improved version reporting

From: Riley Williams (rhw@MemAlpha.CX)
Date: Fri Mar 16 2001 - 18:28:28 EST


Hi Andries.

> Neither am I - but, according to comments from RedHat a while back,
> they repackage mount separately because they provide a NEWER version
> of mount than is in the util-linux package. This will ALSO result in
> `mount --version` giving the wrong answer...

> There is no newer version.

Why do RedHat claim there is then?

> In ancient times I came with frequent releases of mount, at a time
> when util-linux was released very infrequently. These years mount
> is part of util-linux, and util-linux is released frequently.

{Shrug} Persuade RedHat of that, not me - they're the ones who release
it separately. Taken directly from RedHat's FTP site, I note that Red
Hat 6.2 includes RPM's for both mount-2.10f-1.i386.rpm and
util-linux-2.10f-7.i386.rpm which, whilst different releases of the
same version, is sufficient to prove your argument false. I can't get
into their 7.0 tree atm to check due to network congestion, so can't
comment on that...

> Unless one can guarantee that the util-linux and mount packages are
> the SAME version, mount can't be guaranteed to report the version of
> the util-linux package installed. RedHat provide a NEWER version of
> mount to util-linux so that guarantee doesnae exist.

> I do not think they do.

{Shrug} Thinking isn't sufficient - check your facts.

> > You are mistaken, as is proved by the reports that contain a kbd
> > line: a grep on linux-kernel for this Februari shows people with
> > Kbd 0.96, 0.99 and 1.02.
>
> {Shrug} Please explain why I was unable to get ver_linux to report a

> When other people can and you cannot, why should I explain your failure?
> Let me just check. A version from 1993:

> % ./loadkeys -h 2>&1 | head -1
> loadkeys version 0.81
>
> A version from 2001:
>
> % ./loadkeys -h 2>&1 | head -1
> loadkeys version 1.06

> Maybe nothing has changed here the past eight years. It just works.
> Perhaps you tried some modified version.

I tried the version that came as part of Red Hat 6.2 as installed
unmodified on the system I'm using. According to the rpm command, I
see...

 Q> $ rpm -qf `which loadkeys`
 Q> console-tools-19990829-10
 Q> $

I've now tried that on FOUR different systems running Red Hat 6.2, the
last of them a fresh install direct from genuine RH 6.2 CD's with NO
changes since, and all four report the same and do exactly the same to
the command in ver_linux so I have to assume that the command in
ver_linux is UNABLE to determine a version number with this release of
Linux.

Best wishes from Riley.

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