Hi,
We have a dual Xeon machine with 4GB of RAM; when running with an SMP
kernel (either the SMP one with RH7 or a freshly compiled 2.4.0-test10) it
is INCREDIBLY slow. e.g. X takes a minute to start the server - I haven't
bothered waiting for anything more. Just from a command line it feels
very unresponsive (e.g. just something like date takes a second or
so). With a UP kernel it is very responsive and fast.
Any ideas what is going on? It has a single SCSI disc hung off a Symbios
SCSI controller.
I've included /proc/pci, /proc/interrupt /proc/cpuinfo and the kernel
config (2.4.0-test10).
Any help appreciated.
Dave
PCI devices found:
Bus 0, device 8, function 0:
SCSI storage controller: Symbios Logic Inc. (formerly NCR) 53c810 (rev 35).
IRQ 58.
Master Capable. Latency=128. Min Gnt=8.Max Lat=64.
I/O at 0x2000 [0x20ff].
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfa001000 [0xfa0010ff].
Bus 0, device 10, function 0:
VGA compatible controller: Cirrus Logic GD 5480 (rev 35).
Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=2.Max Lat=10.
Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfc000000 [0xfdffffff].
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfa000000 [0xfa000fff].
Bus 0, device 11, function 0:
PIC: Intel Corporation 683053 Programmable Interrupt Device (rev 0).
Master Capable. No bursts. Min Gnt=8.Max Lat=8.
Bus 0, device 12, function 0:
ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 ISA (rev 2).
Bus 0, device 12, function 1:
IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 IDE (rev 1).
Master Capable. Latency=64.
I/O at 0x2420 [0x242f].
Bus 0, device 12, function 2:
USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 USB (rev 1).
IRQ 54.
Master Capable. Latency=64.
I/O at 0x2400 [0x241f].
Bus 0, device 12, function 3:
Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 2).
Bus 0, device 16, function 0:
Host bridge: Intel Corporation 450NX - 82451NX Memory & I/O Controller (rev 3).
Bus 1, device 2, function 0:
Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557 [Ethernet Pro 100] (rev 8).
IRQ 20.
Master Capable. Latency=128. Min Gnt=8.Max Lat=56.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfe004000 [0xfe004fff].
I/O at 0x3800 [0x383f].
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfe100000 [0xfe1fffff].
Bus 1, device 3, function 0:
SCSI storage controller: Symbios Logic Inc. (formerly NCR) 53c896 (rev 1).
IRQ 57.
Master Capable. Latency=128. Min Gnt=17.Max Lat=64.
I/O at 0x3000 [0x30ff].
Non-prefetchable 64 bit memory at 0xfe005000 [0xfe0053ff].
Non-prefetchable 64 bit memory at 0xfe000000 [0xfe001fff].
Bus 1, device 3, function 1:
SCSI storage controller: Symbios Logic Inc. (formerly NCR) 53c896 (#2) (rev 1).
IRQ 56.
Master Capable. Latency=128. Min Gnt=17.Max Lat=64.
I/O at 0x3400 [0x34ff].
Non-prefetchable 64 bit memory at 0xfe005400 [0xfe0057ff].
Non-prefetchable 64 bit memory at 0xfe002000 [0xfe003fff].
Bus 0, device 18, function 0:
Host bridge: Intel Corporation 450NX - 82454NX/84460GX PCI Expander Bridge (rev 4).
Master Capable. Latency=128.
Bus 0, device 19, function 0:
Host bridge: Intel Corporation 450NX - 82454NX/84460GX PCI Expander Bridge (#2) (rev 4).
Master Capable. Latency=128.
CPU0 CPU1
0: 62363 82485 IO-APIC-edge timer
1: 328 305 IO-APIC-edge keyboard
2: 0 0 XT-PIC cascade
9: 0 0 IO-APIC-edge acpi
12: 46 19 IO-APIC-edge PS/2 Mouse
13: 0 0 XT-PIC fpu
20: 1419 1550 IO-APIC-level eth0
56: 14 16 IO-APIC-level sym53c8xx
57: 1944 1943 IO-APIC-level sym53c8xx
58: 15 12 IO-APIC-level sym53c8xx
NMI: 144672 144672
LOC: 144659 144658
ERR: 0
processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 7
model name : Pentium III (Katmai)
stepping : 3
cpu MHz : 550.000155
cache size : 512 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
sep_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 3
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 pn mmx fxsr xmm
bogomips : 1097.73
processor : 1
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 7
model name : Pentium III (Katmai)
stepping : 3
cpu MHz : 550.000155
cache size : 512 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
sep_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 3
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 pn mmx fxsr xmm
bogomips : 1097.73
#
# Automatically generated make config: don't edit
#
CONFIG_X86=y
CONFIG_ISA=y
# CONFIG_SBUS is not set
CONFIG_UID16=y
#
# Code maturity level options
#
CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y
#
# Loadable module support
#
CONFIG_MODULES=y
CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y
CONFIG_KMOD=y
#
# Processor type and features
#
# CONFIG_M386 is not set
# CONFIG_M486 is not set
# CONFIG_M586 is not set
# CONFIG_M586TSC is not set
# CONFIG_M586MMX is not set
# CONFIG_M686 is not set
CONFIG_M686FXSR=y
# CONFIG_MK6 is not set
# CONFIG_MK7 is not set
# CONFIG_MCRUSOE is not set
# CONFIG_MWINCHIPC6 is not set
# CONFIG_MWINCHIP2 is not set
# CONFIG_MWINCHIP3D is not set
CONFIG_X86_WP_WORKS_OK=y
CONFIG_X86_INVLPG=y
CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG=y
CONFIG_X86_BSWAP=y
CONFIG_X86_POPAD_OK=y
CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT=5
CONFIG_X86_TSC=y
CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y
CONFIG_X86_PGE=y
CONFIG_X86_USE_PPRO_CHECKSUM=y
CONFIG_X86_FXSR=y
CONFIG_X86_XMM=y
# CONFIG_TOSHIBA is not set
# CONFIG_MICROCODE is not set
# CONFIG_X86_MSR is not set
# CONFIG_X86_CPUID is not set
# CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM is not set
CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y
# CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set
CONFIG_HIGHMEM=y
CONFIG_MTRR=y
CONFIG_SMP=y
CONFIG_HAVE_DEC_LOCK=y
#
# General setup
#
CONFIG_NET=y
# CONFIG_VISWS is not set
CONFIG_X86_IO_APIC=y
CONFIG_X86_LOCAL_APIC=y
CONFIG_PCI=y
# CONFIG_PCI_GOBIOS is not set
# CONFIG_PCI_GODIRECT is not set
CONFIG_PCI_GOANY=y
CONFIG_PCI_BIOS=y
CONFIG_PCI_DIRECT=y
CONFIG_PCI_NAMES=y
# CONFIG_MCA is not set
CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y
#
# PCMCIA/CardBus support
#
CONFIG_PCMCIA=y
CONFIG_CARDBUS=y
CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y
# CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT is not set
CONFIG_SYSCTL=y
CONFIG_KCORE_ELF=y
# CONFIG_KCORE_AOUT is not set
CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_MISC=y
CONFIG_PM=y
CONFIG_ACPI=y
# CONFIG_ACPI_INTERPRETER is not set
# CONFIG_ACPI_S1_SLEEP is not set
# CONFIG_APM is not set
#
# Memory Technology Devices (MTD)
#
# CONFIG_MTD is not set
#
# Parallel port support
#
# CONFIG_PARPORT is not set
#
# Plug and Play configuration
#
CONFIG_PNP=y
CONFIG_ISAPNP=y
#
# Block devices
#
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_XD is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_DA is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_CISS_DA is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DAC960 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_NBD is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM is not set
#
# Multi-device support (RAID and LVM)
#
# CONFIG_MD is not set
#
# Networking options
#
CONFIG_PACKET=y
# CONFIG_PACKET_MMAP is not set
# CONFIG_NETLINK is not set
# CONFIG_NETFILTER is not set
# CONFIG_FILTER is not set
CONFIG_UNIX=y
CONFIG_INET=y
# CONFIG_IP_MULTICAST is not set
# CONFIG_IP_ADVANCED_ROUTER is not set
# CONFIG_IP_PNP is not set
# CONFIG_NET_IPIP is not set
# CONFIG_NET_IPGRE is not set
# CONFIG_INET_ECN is not set
# CONFIG_SYN_COOKIES is not set
# CONFIG_IPV6 is not set
# CONFIG_KHTTPD is not set
# CONFIG_ATM is not set
#
#
#
# CONFIG_IPX is not set
# CONFIG_ATALK is not set
# CONFIG_DECNET is not set
# CONFIG_BRIDGE is not set
# CONFIG_X25 is not set
# CONFIG_LAPB is not set
# CONFIG_LLC is not set
# CONFIG_NET_DIVERT is not set
# CONFIG_ECONET is not set
# CONFIG_WAN_ROUTER is not set
# CONFIG_NET_FASTROUTE is not set
# CONFIG_NET_HW_FLOWCONTROL is not set
#
# QoS and/or fair queueing
#
# CONFIG_NET_SCHED is not set
#
# Telephony Support
#
# CONFIG_PHONE is not set
#
# ATA/IDE/MFM/RLL support
#
# CONFIG_IDE is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_MODES is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD is not set
#
# SCSI support
#
CONFIG_SCSI=y
#
# SCSI support type (disk, tape, CD-ROM)
#
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=y
CONFIG_SD_EXTRA_DEVS=40
# CONFIG_CHR_DEV_ST is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR_VENDOR=y
CONFIG_SR_EXTRA_DEVS=2
CONFIG_CHR_DEV_SG=y
#
# Some SCSI devices (e.g. CD jukebox) support multiple LUNs
#
CONFIG_SCSI_DEBUG_QUEUES=y
CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN=y
CONFIG_SCSI_CONSTANTS=y
# CONFIG_SCSI_LOGGING is not set
#
# SCSI low-level drivers
#
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_3W_XXXX_RAID is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_7000FASST is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_ACARD is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AHA152X is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AHA1542 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AHA1740 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AIC7XXX is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_ADVANSYS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_IN2000 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AM53C974 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_MEGARAID is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_BUSLOGIC is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_CPQFCTS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_DMX3191D is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_DTC3280 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_EATA is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_EATA_DMA is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_EATA_PIO is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_FUTURE_DOMAIN is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_GDTH is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_GENERIC_NCR5380 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_IPS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_INITIO is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_INIA100 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C406A is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C7xx is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX is not set
CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C8XX=y
CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_DEFAULT_TAGS=4
CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_MAX_TAGS=32
CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_SYNC=20
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_PROFILE is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_IOMAPPED is not set
CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_PQS_PDS=y
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_SYMBIOS_COMPAT is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PAS16 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PCI2000 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PCI2220I is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PSI240I is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_FAS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_ISP is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_FC is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_1280 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SEAGATE is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SIM710 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C416 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_DC390T is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_T128 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_U14_34F is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_ULTRASTOR is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_DEBUG is not set
#
# PCMCIA SCSI adapter support
#
# CONFIG_SCSI_PCMCIA is not set
#
# IEEE 1394 (FireWire) support
#
# CONFIG_IEEE1394 is not set
#
# I2O device support
#
# CONFIG_I2O is not set
#
# Network device support
#
CONFIG_NETDEVICES=y
#
# ARCnet devices
#
# CONFIG_ARCNET is not set
CONFIG_DUMMY=y
# CONFIG_BONDING is not set
# CONFIG_EQUALIZER is not set
# CONFIG_TUN is not set
# CONFIG_NET_SB1000 is not set
#
# Ethernet (10 or 100Mbit)
#
CONFIG_NET_ETHERNET=y
# CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_3COM is not set
# CONFIG_LANCE is not set
# CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_SMC is not set
# CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_RACAL is not set
# CONFIG_AT1700 is not set
# CONFIG_DEPCA is not set
# CONFIG_HP100 is not set
# CONFIG_NET_ISA is not set
CONFIG_NET_PCI=y
# CONFIG_PCNET32 is not set
# CONFIG_ADAPTEC_STARFIRE is not set
# CONFIG_AC3200 is not set
# CONFIG_APRICOT is not set
# CONFIG_CS89x0 is not set
# CONFIG_DE4X5 is not set
# CONFIG_TULIP is not set
# CONFIG_DGRS is not set
# CONFIG_DM9102 is not set
CONFIG_EEPRO100=y
# CONFIG_EEPRO100_PM is not set
# CONFIG_LNE390 is not set
# CONFIG_NATSEMI is not set
# CONFIG_NE2K_PCI is not set
# CONFIG_NE3210 is not set
# CONFIG_ES3210 is not set
# CONFIG_RTL8129 is not set
# CONFIG_8139TOO is not set
# CONFIG_SIS900 is not set
# CONFIG_EPIC100 is not set
# CONFIG_SUNDANCE is not set
# CONFIG_TLAN is not set
# CONFIG_VIA_RHINE is not set
# CONFIG_WINBOND_840 is not set
# CONFIG_NET_POCKET is not set
#
# Ethernet (1000 Mbit)
#
# CONFIG_ACENIC is not set
# CONFIG_HAMACHI is not set
# CONFIG_YELLOWFIN is not set
# CONFIG_SK98LIN is not set
# CONFIG_FDDI is not set
# CONFIG_HIPPI is not set
# CONFIG_PPP is not set
# CONFIG_SLIP is not set
#
# Wireless LAN (non-hamradio)
#
# CONFIG_NET_RADIO is not set
#
# Token Ring devices
#
# CONFIG_TR is not set
# CONFIG_NET_FC is not set
# CONFIG_RCPCI is not set
# CONFIG_SHAPER is not set
#
# Wan interfaces
#
# CONFIG_WAN is not set
#
# PCMCIA network device support
#
# CONFIG_NET_PCMCIA is not set
#
# Amateur Radio support
#
# CONFIG_HAMRADIO is not set
#
# IrDA (infrared) support
#
# CONFIG_IRDA is not set
#
# ISDN subsystem
#
# CONFIG_ISDN is not set
#
# Old CD-ROM drivers (not SCSI, not IDE)
#
# CONFIG_CD_NO_IDESCSI is not set
#
# Input core support
#
# CONFIG_INPUT is not set
#
# Character devices
#
CONFIG_VT=y
CONFIG_VT_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_SERIAL=y
# CONFIG_SERIAL_CONSOLE is not set
# CONFIG_SERIAL_EXTENDED is not set
# CONFIG_SERIAL_NONSTANDARD is not set
CONFIG_UNIX98_PTYS=y
CONFIG_UNIX98_PTY_COUNT=256
#
# I2C support
#
# CONFIG_I2C is not set
#
# Mice
#
# CONFIG_BUSMOUSE is not set
CONFIG_MOUSE=y
CONFIG_PSMOUSE=y
# CONFIG_82C710_MOUSE is not set
# CONFIG_PC110_PAD is not set
#
# Joysticks
#
#
# Game port support
#
#
# Gameport joysticks
#
#
# Serial port support
#
#
# Serial port joysticks
#
#
# Parallel port joysticks
#
#
# Parport support is needed for parallel port joysticks
#
# CONFIG_QIC02_TAPE is not set
#
# Watchdog Cards
#
# CONFIG_WATCHDOG is not set
# CONFIG_INTEL_RNG is not set
# CONFIG_NVRAM is not set
# CONFIG_RTC is not set
# CONFIG_DTLK is not set
# CONFIG_R3964 is not set
# CONFIG_APPLICOM is not set
#
# Ftape, the floppy tape device driver
#
# CONFIG_FTAPE is not set
# CONFIG_AGP is not set
# CONFIG_DRM is not set
CONFIG_PCMCIA_SERIAL=y
#
# PCMCIA character device support
#
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_SERIAL_CS is not set
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_SERIAL_CB is not set
#
# Multimedia devices
#
# CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV is not set
#
# File systems
#
# CONFIG_QUOTA is not set
# CONFIG_AUTOFS_FS is not set
CONFIG_AUTOFS4_FS=y
# CONFIG_ADFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_AFFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_HFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_BFS_FS is not set
CONFIG_FAT_FS=y
CONFIG_MSDOS_FS=y
# CONFIG_UMSDOS_FS is not set
CONFIG_VFAT_FS=y
# CONFIG_EFS_FS is not set
CONFIG_JFFS_FS_VERBOSE=0
# CONFIG_CRAMFS is not set
# CONFIG_RAMFS is not set
CONFIG_ISO9660_FS=y
# CONFIG_JOLIET is not set
# CONFIG_MINIX_FS is not set
# CONFIG_NTFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_HPFS_FS is not set
CONFIG_PROC_FS=y
# CONFIG_DEVFS_FS is not set
CONFIG_DEVPTS_FS=y
# CONFIG_QNX4FS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_ROMFS_FS is not set
CONFIG_EXT2_FS=y
# CONFIG_SYSV_FS is not set
# CONFIG_UDF_FS is not set
# CONFIG_UFS_FS is not set
#
# Network File Systems
#
# CONFIG_CODA_FS is not set
CONFIG_NFS_FS=y
CONFIG_NFS_V3=y
CONFIG_NFSD=y
CONFIG_NFSD_V3=y
CONFIG_SUNRPC=y
CONFIG_LOCKD=y
CONFIG_LOCKD_V4=y
CONFIG_SMB_FS=y
# CONFIG_SMB_NLS_DEFAULT is not set
# CONFIG_NCP_FS is not set
#
# Partition Types
#
# CONFIG_PARTITION_ADVANCED is not set
CONFIG_MSDOS_PARTITION=y
CONFIG_NLS=y
#
# Native Language Support
#
CONFIG_NLS_DEFAULT="iso8859-1"
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_437 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_737 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_775 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_850 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_852 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_855 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_857 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_860 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_861 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_862 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_863 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_864 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_865 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_866 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_869 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_874 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_932 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_936 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_949 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_950 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_1 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_2 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_3 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_4 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_5 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_6 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_7 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_8 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_9 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_14 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_15 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_KOI8_R is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_UTF8 is not set
#
# Console drivers
#
CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE=y
# CONFIG_VIDEO_SELECT is not set
# CONFIG_MDA_CONSOLE is not set
#
# Frame-buffer support
#
# CONFIG_FB is not set
#
# Sound
#
# CONFIG_SOUND is not set
#
# USB support
#
# CONFIG_USB is not set
#
# Kernel hacking
#
CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ=y
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