Re: [ADMIN] some list related topics ..

From: Matti Aarnio (matti.aarnio@zmailer.org)
Date: Fri Oct 20 2000 - 00:33:05 EST


On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 07:30:33PM -0700, Marty Fouts wrote:
> [snip]
> >
> > 3) some ISP systems yield 500 series errors with text:
> > "system is temporarily busy"
> > or something of that effect. Now THAT is really offensive
> > stupidity by the ISP software folks...
>
> <sigh> There is nothing in the SMTP RFCs that require any to be able to
> accept all email at all times. SMTP is *not* designed to be a reliable
> delivery mechanism, let alone a first-time reliable delivery mechanism.
> Refusal to accept email because the receiving system is under high load is
> well understood, commonly accepted, and even codified in implementation
> practice.

        Yes, but the Specified Way to handle temporary problems is to
        yield 400-series codes, or defer answering to the SMTP connections
        at all.

        Yielding 500 series replies means "this address is now and forever
        invalid, don't try this again."

> In my opinion, you are doing a GoodThing(tm) by trying to weed broken
> addresses from the mailing list. But please don't demand from the internet
> behavior it wasn't designed to provide.

        Seeing bad behaviour at 2 ISPs doesn't count to me as something
        which majority of implementations are supposed to do.

> Marty

/Matti Aarnio
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