On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Rik van Riel wrote:
>
> >So if the ZONE_DMA is filled by mlock()ed memory, classzone
> >will *not* try to balance it? Will classzone *only* try to
>
> It will try but it won't succeed.
>
> >balance the big classzone containing zone_dma, and not the
> >dma zone itself? (since the dma zone doesn't contain any
>
> No, I definitely try to balance the DMA zone itself. But in such
> case (all DMA zone mlocked) kswapd will just spend CPU trying to
> balance the zone but it _can't_ succeed because mlocked just
> means we can't even attempt to move such memory elsewhere in the
> physical space or we'll break userspace critical latency needs.
I fully agree with this, this is the obviously right thing to
do. Would you be surprised to know that the code in the last
2.4.0-ac kernels does exactly this?
(with the exception of the two implementation bugs which can
cause kswapd and shrink_mmap to loop)
> >A few mails back you wrote that the classzone patch would
> >do just about the same if a _classzone_ fills up. (except
>
> What you mean with "just about the same"? You mean spending CPU
> in kswapd trying to release some memory? If so yes. When a
> classzone fills up kswapd will spend cpu trying to free some
> memory so that the next GFP_DMA/GFP_KERNEL/GFP_HIGHUSER
> allocation (depending on the classzone that is low on memory)
> will succeed.
So classzone and the normal zoned VM behave in the same way here
except that classzone doesn't show the bad effects when the
allocations happen in a certain lucky order.
I think the differences between classzone and the zoned vm are
pretty small at this moment, with most of classzone's benefits
being theoretical ones that rely on memory zones being inclusive
rather than numa-like...
> >that the different shrink_mmap() causes it to go to sleep
> >before being woken up again at the next allocation)
>
> In classzone shrink_mmap doesn't control in any way how kswapd
> will react to low memory conditions. Only the level of memory of
> the classzones are controlling kswapd. If classzone is low on
> memory kswapd will keep to try to shrink it.
Owww, so classzone kswapd will get into an infinite loop with
the disaster scenario too?
regards,
Rik
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