On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, Rik van Riel wrote:
> >On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> >
> >> >and we can support all corner cases of usage well without it. In
> >> >fact, as I demonstrated above, even your own contorted example will
> >> >hang classzone if I only switch the order in which the allocations
> >> >happen...
> >>
> >> It won't hang, but kswapd will eat CPU and that's right in your case. The
> >> difference that you can't see is that in the second scenario where the
> >> classzone would spend CPU in kswapd the CPU is spent for a purpose that
> >> have a sense. In the first scenario where classzone wouldn't any spend
> >> CPU, the CPU in kswapd would infact be _wasted_.
> >
> >Now explain to me *why* this happens. I'm pretty sure this happens
> >because of the 'dispose = &old' in shrink_mmap and not because of
> >anything even remotely classzone related...
>
> You waste CPU in kswapd in the first scenario simply because you
> are not looking backwards at the ZONE_DMA state at the time you
> have to choose if you did some progress on the ZONE_NORMAL zone.
>
> The problem isn't related to shrink_mmap, but only to the zone design
> (proper classzone part).
But when you switch around the order of allocation in your
hypothetical example, allocating the cache first, from the
ZONE_NORMAL and then proceeding to mlock the rest of the
normal zone and the dma zone, then classzone will still
break.
> >I'm trying to improve the Linux kernel here, I'd appreciate it if
> >you were honest with me.
>
> Are you saying I'm not been honest with you? JFYI: I don't enjoy to get
> insulted by you (and it's not the first time). I will ignore also your
> above comment but please don't insult me anymore in the future! Thanks.
Conveniently snipping out the part of my post where I proved
your example wrong is not what I'd call constructive dialog.
Maybe the "honesty" thing was a bit much. I should get some
sleep and try again tomorrow using less inflammatory words.
regards,
Rik
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