Re: [PATCH 3/8] can: CAN Network device driver and SYSFS interface

From: Patrick McHardy
Date: Tue Feb 24 2009 - 04:38:56 EST


Wolfgang Grandegger wrote:
1. Set and get CAN device properties like bit-rate and controller mode.
2. Show CAN bus state (active, error-passive or bus-off).
3. Get device constants like clock frequency and bit-timing parameters.
4. Dump CAN device statistics.
5. Trigger device restart if CAN bus-off state has been detected.

Not sure yet, if the interface if good for all purposes. Especially
point 5. might be better handled by an IOCTL.
The first points sound pretty regular. The last one - just triggering
it is no problem of course, but since I don't know how the detection
works, I can't really tell whether its suitable.

CAN errors and state changes might be delivered as CAN error messages to
the receiving socket/application, like normal messages. When the
application realizes the state change to CAN bus-off, it may want to
trigger a bus-off recovery (controller restart). The CAN controller HW
enters bus-off, when too much errors occurred on the bus. No more
messages can then be sent of received and therefore the driver calls
netif_carrier_off(). Is there already an interface for the user to
restart? An appropriate IOCTL request would be a simply option, but they
are generally deprecated, AFAIK. Using netlink would be more cumbersome,
as with SYSFS.

You could consider triggering the restart automatically, similar
to the netdev watchdog. In fact, you could simply use that one.
If you really want to trigger this from userspace, setting the
device DOWN and UP again seems like the most appropriate way to
me (even though not very nice to use from an application POV).

And we need a user space
tool, e.g. canconfig, to handle the user requests and communicate with
the kernel side.
Thats pretty standard :)

For the iproute2 utility "ip", mainliy a netlink_can.c would be
required. But a dedicated tool for CAN seems more appropriate to me.

I don't know the CAN specifics. One goal of the rtnl_link API
was to reduce to amount of userspace tools for link configuration
though, so please only create a new tool if there's really a good
reason. From my POV it would be preferrable to have link configuration
in iproute for direct use by users and possibly also support in
libnl for use by other applications.

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